From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 2002:a24:36c9:: with SMTP id l192-v6mr7929527itl.43.1528031340936; Sun, 03 Jun 2018 06:09:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a9d:6183:: with SMTP id g3-v6mr364835otk.3.1528031340807; Sun, 03 Jun 2018 06:09:00 -0700 (PDT) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.uzoreto.com!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!feeder.usenetexpress.com!feeder-in1.iad1.usenetexpress.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!v8-v6no4140459itc.0!news-out.google.com!b185-v6ni4573itb.0!nntp.google.com!v8-v6no4140457itc.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2018 06:09:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=76.113.16.86; posting-account=lJ3JNwoAAAAQfH3VV9vttJLkThaxtTfC NNTP-Posting-Host: 76.113.16.86 References: <5e86db65-84b9-4b5b-9aea-427a658b5ae7@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <25a23377-3450-4aaf-8b4d-2d057624b5f9@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Ada Successor Language From: Shark8 Injection-Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2018 13:09:00 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:52872 Date: 2018-06-03T06:09:00-07:00 List-Id: On Sunday, June 3, 2018 at 4:01:31 AM UTC-6, ric....@gmail.com wrote: > Ada is an incredible languages as it is. It doesn't need a successor - it= needs more adoption. I actually agree; I'd like to see more adoption -- but there are some well-= founded gripes, even among the hardcore Ada supporters -- and there have be= en several major design mistakes such as anonymous access types and access = parameters. (The ARG so highly values backwards compatibility that, honestl= y, there's more chance of a successor language than the correction of most = of these mistakes; just ask Randy.) But a discussion like this allows us to discuss these problems, possibly ev= en getting an 'ah-ha!' moment for solving them within current Ada. -- And i= f it does result in a successor language, we'll have a better idea of exact= ly what are the bad parts or how to correctly address what they were intend= ed to.