From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 10.50.142.39 with SMTP id rt7mr17923107igb.5.1436799242925; Mon, 13 Jul 2015 07:54:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.140.102.109 with SMTP id v100mr96762qge.16.1436799242802; Mon, 13 Jul 2015 07:54:02 -0700 (PDT) Path: buffer1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!pg9no329236igb.0!news-out.google.com!30ni41qgi.0!nntp.google.com!z61no666275qge.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 07:54:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=31.186.238.52; posting-account=bMuEOQoAAACUUr_ghL3RBIi5neBZ5w_S NNTP-Posting-Host: 31.186.238.52 References: <14592326-5070-4663-a864-5684298f3748@googlegroups.com> <004361da-53c4-4ea9-8cc6-38944aa6c7ad@googlegroups.com> <29dd5458-f9ce-4db8-9128-8ab35a9ce5f8@googlegroups.com> <64bc671c-72e5-4924-b703-3b907c69949c@googlegroups.com> <877fq9uj6g.fsf@theworld.com> <65061686-5c8f-433b-9b11-9e228298158e@googlegroups.com> <87k2u96jms.fsf@jester.gateway.sonic.net> <06f8a6f9-d219-4d40-b9ac-8518e93839bd@googlegroups.com> <87y4io63jy.fsf@jester.gateway.sonic.net> <7a29d3e9-d1bd-4f4a-b1a6-14d3e1a83a4d@googlegroups.com> <87mvz36fen.fsf@jester.gateway.sonic.net> <2215b44f-8a89-47c6-a4c4-52b74d2dac45@googlegroups.com> <9e492c82-868d-43d3-a18a-38274400e337@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <248f9bc4-8723-4194-bd09-b3d1903b7c18@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: If not Ada, what else... From: Maciej Sobczak Injection-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 14:54:02 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Xref: number.nntp.giganews.com comp.lang.ada:194111 Date: 2015-07-13T07:54:02-07:00 List-Id: > What I don't understand is why the C++ communities doesn't just adopt D a= s a replacement and finish. Becaue D is not different enough. For many programmers (me including), D is= too similar to C++ to make the improvement credible. This is a typical problem with any new technology that claims to be "better= " at the same time trying to remain as similar to the old stuff as possible= . The small space for actual improvement that results from such compromises= is too little to justify the effort. > While D is certainly not Ada it is for sure what C++ should be. There is a contradiction in this statement, since it both shows the goal an= d at the same time suggests that it should not be met. Considering the massive success that C++ achieved in its respective market = niche, it is difficult to argue that C++ should be something else than it a= lready is. And if you really need something else, just move to Ada. Half-as= sed solutions are only distractions. > In both cases C++ and D, neither "got it" in terms of the importance of t= ypes Considering the assumed constraint of backward compatibility with C, they g= ot the importance of types very well. More complete support for OO and temp= lates are strong features, making it difficult for Ada to compete in these = areas. --=20 Maciej Sobczak * http://www.inspirel.com/