From: Justin Sq <jsquirek@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Community Input for the Maintenance and Revision of the Ada Programming Language
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2017 07:42:09 -0700 (PDT)
Date: 2017-08-11T07:42:09-07:00 [thread overview]
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On Thursday, August 10, 2017 at 10:41:24 AM UTC-4, Lucretia wrote:
> On Thursday, 10 August 2017 06:41:56 UTC+1, G.B. wrote:
> > On 09.08.17 23:08, Luke A. Guest wrote:
> >
> > > 1) endian aspects.
> > > 2) full Unicode support including sorting, character db, regexps, bounded
> > > and unbounded need, iterators for code points, graphème clusters, word
> > > boundaries, bidi, etc.
> >
> > Unicode support can be a joint effort without major investments of time
> > and money:
> > practically adressing Randy Brukardt's remark that this is going to
> > require politics, there is libiconv, the Unicode related designs done
> > for the Swift language, java.text.*, and so forth.
> >
> > > 3) cross platform GUI.
> >
> > Care to elaborate why? Having seen cross platform GUIs fail in all but
>
> I already explained in a previous post, the post does not just relate to 8 but to all my points.
>
> > corporate surroundings, and possibly games, even then, new proprietary
>
> In games, companies either use a third party UI or write their own, I know, because I used to work in games.
>
I have no doubt Ada would benefit from a decent modern GUI or UI framework, but its just not something I think the ARG folks should worry about. There are important tasks directly related to the language itself that can't be solved by third parties generally -- and that argument applies to any other runtime feature or addition proposal.
Perhaps a decent Qt binding is in order?
On the otherhand Ada.Directories and Ada.Text_IO are woefully outdated. For example, if you have a computer and you speak a language like Japanese, French, German, Spanish, etc. think of how frustrating it is when you simply can't open a file with anything other than ASCII in the path. A program that deals with relative directories might work fine in one directory but get moved and suddenly fail hopelessly. Poor end-user :(
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2017-08-03 5:45 Community Input for the Maintenance and Revision of the Ada Programming Language Randy Brukardt
2017-08-03 12:06 ` Lucretia
2017-08-03 12:52 ` Lucretia
2017-08-09 21:08 ` Luke A. Guest
2017-08-09 21:12 ` Luke A. Guest
2017-08-10 14:43 ` Lucretia
2017-08-10 15:14 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-08-11 1:27 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-08-11 1:24 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-08-11 5:54 ` G.B.
2017-08-10 5:41 ` G.B.
2017-08-10 14:41 ` Lucretia
2017-08-10 15:25 ` J-P. Rosen
2017-08-10 15:42 ` Luke A. Guest
2017-08-10 15:44 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-08-11 0:56 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-08-11 1:10 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-08-11 22:43 ` Shark8
2017-08-12 2:40 ` Luke A. Guest
2017-08-11 14:42 ` Justin Sq [this message]
2017-08-11 14:48 ` jsquirek
2017-08-11 17:10 ` Luke A. Guest
2017-08-11 17:24 ` Justin Sq
2017-08-11 20:09 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-08-11 21:13 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-08-18 21:06 ` Robert Eachus
2017-08-31 0:49 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-08-31 7:36 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2017-08-31 9:52 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-08-31 12:49 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2017-08-31 13:16 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-08-31 14:09 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2017-08-31 14:41 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-08-31 15:45 ` Simon Wright
2017-08-31 16:08 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-08-31 18:51 ` Georg Bauhaus
2017-08-31 23:54 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-09-01 3:51 ` Justin Sq
2017-09-01 7:24 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-09-01 12:23 ` jsquirek
2017-09-03 1:17 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-08-18 20:33 ` Robert Eachus
2017-08-19 1:24 ` Shark8
2017-08-19 8:55 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-08-19 16:38 ` Shark8
2017-08-19 17:09 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-08-22 6:02 ` Robert Eachus
2017-08-22 7:34 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-08-26 4:41 ` Robert Eachus
2017-08-26 6:29 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-08-26 7:16 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2017-08-26 7:48 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-08-27 12:03 ` Robert Eachus
2017-08-27 12:35 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-08-27 14:44 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2017-08-27 16:32 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-08-19 8:47 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-08-10 12:18 ` J-P. Rosen
2017-08-10 12:40 ` Lucretia
2017-08-10 15:17 ` J-P. Rosen
2017-08-11 8:33 ` AdaMagica
2017-08-10 16:28 ` Pascal Obry
2017-08-10 16:52 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-08-10 17:08 ` Luke A. Guest
2017-08-10 17:25 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-08-11 1:02 ` Lucretia
2017-08-11 6:08 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-08-11 20:51 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-08-10 17:06 ` Luke A. Guest
2017-08-11 1:31 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-08-11 6:24 ` G.B.
2017-08-11 7:57 ` Stefan.Lucks
2017-08-11 8:34 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-08-11 8:53 ` Stefan.Lucks
2017-08-11 9:12 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-08-11 9:22 ` AdaMagica
2017-08-12 18:29 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2017-08-29 16:01 ` Alejandro R. Mosteo
2017-08-09 15:24 ` Johan Söderlind Åström
2017-08-09 17:23 ` Shark8
2017-08-09 18:49 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-08-31 6:59 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2017-08-28 23:49 ` faryumg
2017-08-29 8:17 ` Simon Wright
2017-08-31 13:35 ` Johan Söderlind Åström
2017-09-02 10:49 ` Vincent DIEMUNSCH
2017-09-02 11:04 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-09-02 11:21 ` Johan Söderlind Åström
2017-09-02 15:22 ` Vincent DIEMUNSCH
2017-09-02 17:19 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2017-09-04 20:52 ` Johan Söderlind Åström
2017-09-03 1:30 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-09-06 15:02 ` Johan Söderlind Åström
2017-09-06 15:57 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2017-09-06 18:56 ` Johan Söderlind Åström
2017-09-06 21:21 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-09-08 21:04 ` Johan Söderlind Åström
2017-09-08 21:46 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-09-08 23:55 ` Johan Söderlind Åström
2017-09-16 12:49 ` Johan Söderlind Åström
2017-09-16 13:10 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-09-17 11:05 ` AdaMagica
2017-09-17 12:51 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-09-08 22:13 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2017-09-10 21:09 ` Johan Söderlind Åström
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2017-10-02 19:01 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-09-08 23:07 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-09-09 20:35 ` Johan Söderlind Åström
2017-10-02 18:57 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-09-09 14:48 ` G.B.
2017-09-03 1:35 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-09-03 10:32 ` Alejandro R. Mosteo
2017-09-03 12:59 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-09-05 22:25 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-09-05 22:29 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-09-02 16:49 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2017-09-03 10:34 ` Alejandro R. Mosteo
2017-09-02 17:08 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2017-09-06 16:38 ` Vincent DIEMUNSCH
2017-09-06 20:52 ` Egil H H
2017-09-06 21:30 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-09-08 15:49 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2017-09-03 1:28 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-09-06 6:15 ` Shark8
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2017-09-01 14:47 ` J-P. Rosen
2017-09-01 16:02 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
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2017-09-03 1:22 ` Randy Brukardt
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