From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 10.200.51.170 with SMTP id c39mr3580217qtb.1.1472235705956; Fri, 26 Aug 2016 11:21:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.157.18.211 with SMTP id g77mr379908otg.19.1472235705917; Fri, 26 Aug 2016 11:21:45 -0700 (PDT) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder01.blueworldhosting.com!peer02.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!j37no10859240qta.0!news-out.google.com!d68ni39819ith.0!nntp.google.com!j128no206150ith.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 11:21:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=81.193.76.52; posting-account=nd46uAkAAAB2IU3eJoKQE6q_ACEyvPP_ NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.193.76.52 References: <866e6e94-6e49-4b73-8840-9d0987254253@googlegroups.com> <621e5847-240e-4b6f-8a2a-8ee0820823a2@googlegroups.com> <0977f4cc-53ab-4ce6-aca2-7cb7aa059fdd@googlegroups.com> <41d172af-40f3-4e03-879a-9d335d2f1ecf@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <2294c089-90ce-4fcf-905b-56f8b64f9c55@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: why is java so widespread when ada is free? makes 0 sense From: Some Dude Injection-Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 18:21:45 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Received-Bytes: 2790 X-Received-Body-CRC: 1404358610 Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:31597 Date: 2016-08-26T11:21:45-07:00 List-Id: On Friday, August 26, 2016 at 6:49:31 PM UTC+1, Nicolas Colin Paul de Glouc= ester wrote: > |-----------------------------------------------------------------| > |"[. . .] | > | | > |I am grappling with this: | > | | > |Can I use GNAT to make programs in my for profit startup or not?"| > |-----------------------------------------------------------------| >=20 > Would clients of a firm want to pay a firm that does not want to pay > for a good compiler? Of course they would. Nowadays, many compilers are free as in "permissive license for any use". I= f Ada ever wanted to gain some traction and widespread popularity, either (= a) GNAT would have to become LGPL or (b) someone else would need to make an= LGPL or BSD licensed Ada compiler or (c) AdaCore would have to sell the fu= ll toolchain, including the libraries but perhaps without Spark and without= further support, for less than $100. A working cross-platform GUI option (= not "web-based") written in Ada and with permissive license would also not = harm.