From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.5-pre1 (2020-06-20) on ip-172-31-74-118.ec2.internal X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_20,MSGID_SHORT autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.5-pre1 Date: 21 Sep 93 23:51:20 GMT From: psinntp!witch!mlb!mbayern@uunet.uu.net (Mark Bayern) Subject: Re: A sad story Message-ID: <227@mlb.win.net> List-Id: In article <1993Sep17.204844.19059@hellgate.utah.edu>, Mark Atwood (matwood%per uvian.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu) writes: >I work for a small military contractor and have a few small (<20KLOC) Ada ... deleted stuff was here ... >I called up the salesdroid of our Ada vendor, and had him send me the glossy >pamphlets, etc for the cross-compiler. Silly me, I didn't ask for the price, >assuming that it would be about the same, or maybe a little more than our UNIX >and DOS compilers. > >A few weeks later he drops by to shake hands, answer a few questions that one >of the developers has, and give out passes to Tri-Ada (couldn't make it). >While he was there, I asked to get the price for the cross-compiler. > > $30+K and $100 per RTE > >Our jaws dropped. Now maybe I was naive, virginal and unexperenced in >pricing, the boxes we are building have to cost just a few hundred bucks each. > >So we are now using C/asm on a MC68HC16. And now I'm going to be able to >afford a really nice ICE. > >Sorry Ada, I love you, but I can't afford you. > Thank you, thank you! THANK YOU!!! I'm a regular here at pointing out that those prices are simply out of sight. It seems I'm ignored, or someone tells me that I've got to compare prices to a unix workstation. Why? Why can't I compare prices to what a normal commercial user would use? BTW, I never got past the $25K cost + 5K required first year support. You're telling me they then want $100/RTE copy? Mark PS--my news souuce is currently about 3 days behind -- sorry about the delays