From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD, FREEMAIL_FROM,WEIRD_PORT autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,2573df63ff37c586 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Received: by 10.68.195.131 with SMTP id ie3mr5412351pbc.8.1335981533491; Wed, 02 May 2012 10:58:53 -0700 (PDT) Path: r9ni124292pbh.0!nntp.google.com!news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Manuel Gomez Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Adaforge? Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 10:58:52 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <22645142.3042.1335981533102.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbqq1> References: <10872380.887.1335622497447.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbbfr18> <20524276.2208.1335953540520.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbqq1> NNTP-Posting-Host: 188.78.197.224 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: posting.google.com 1335981533 1694 127.0.0.1 (2 May 2012 17:58:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 17:58:53 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <20524276.2208.1335953540520.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbqq1> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=188.78.197.224; posting-account=wH6HYAoAAAAK7zncUBGPTSTVRKG7WqMb User-Agent: G2/1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: 2012-05-02T10:58:52-07:00 List-Id: On Wednesday, May 2, 2012 12:12:20 PM UTC+2, Ludovic Brenta wrote: > * there is no need for a new web site. Instead, it is better > to contribute meaningful content to the the existing AdaIC > and Ada Programming Wikibook sites. (The latter already has > several pages full of links to libraries). >=20 > * We don't need another forge. Existing Ada-centric forges > already include http://forge.ada-ru.org, > http://www.ada-france.org:8081, http://codelabs.ch and > http://scm.ada.cx. General-purpose forges containing Ada > sources include Tigris, Berlios, SourceForge. I probably > forgot some. Dmitry, Stephe and a few other individuals host > their sources on their private web sites. I think it is better > to improve the existing forges than to create a new one. You have surely forgotten GitHub [1]. I try to maintain updated a list of forges and library directories in the A= da wikibook [2]. I have added the Ada-centric forges and Berlios, which sad= ly only contain three projects. Unfortunately Tigris lacks a way to find Ad= a projects so I have not added it. >=20 > * Each of the aforementioned Ada-centric forges relies on one > or two dedicated, enthusiastic, skilled volunteers for > maintenance. This is bad. A good idea, for someone skilled > and interested in forges, is to join one of them as an > administrator. >=20 > * Instead of asking all developers to migrate to the same forge, > it might be a better idea to ask them to add a link to their > projects in the Ada wikibook (section 2.6, "Other language > libraries"). Thus the existing wikibook can serve as the > central place where people can discover tools and libraries. Apart from the Ada Programming Wikibook there is also the Ada Commons wiki = [3] which also contains links to several Ada libraries. I think the library= directory should be merged into one of the two in order to avoid redundanc= y. Wikibooks has the advantage of the Wikimedia foundation support and Comm= ons the advantage of a wiki used exclusively for Ada: for example, the arti= cle names are flat and simpler. My opinion is that the directory should be = merged into Ada Commons and the Ada wikibook should host only the pedagogic= al content. A good idea for a project would be to implement a bot for extracting inform= ation from other directories or forges in order to populate this unified Ad= a directory. Another alternative is to maintain all the Ada projects referenced in oloh = [4], since you can search by implementation language there, and has many in= teresting tools such as the source code analysis. As you can see there are already enough sites, what we should do is unite e= fforts, expand the content of current sites and possibly federate contents = just like Planet Ada does for blog like entries. [1] https://github.com/languages/Ada [2] http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Ada_Programming/Portals [3] http://commons.ada.cx [4] http://www.ohloh.net/p?page=3D3&q=3Dlanguage%3Aada&sort=3Drelevance