From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_DATE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!uupsi!grebyn!karl From: karl@grebyn.com (Karl A. Nyberg) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: was compiler bashing Message-ID: <21105@grebyn.com> Date: 10 Aug 90 14:41:55 GMT References: <1990Aug9.191734.11633@sctc.com> Sender: karl@grebyn.com Organization: Grebyn Corp. Distribution:comp.lang.ada List-Id: If we're going to have to play compiler/vendor bashing here... In article <1990Aug9.191734.11633@sctc.com> endrizzi@sctc.com (Michael Endrizzi ) writes: >I have been using VADS Version 5 Unix self-hosting for 7 months now and >I cannot take it anymore. Any self-hosted compiler in particular? Brand of computer, version of operating system, more accurate revision level of compiler? I'll give you a dollar for it if you want to sell... :-) >I am up to my eyeballs in "internal errors" >,"database inconsistency","segmentation error,core dump","out of memory". I presume you followed the documentation (and Walt Penny's recent e-mail) and have submitted these as reports. Of course, if you have enjoyed masochism for the past seven months, why start complaining now... >4 of us used DEC VMS Ada version 1!!! for 1 and half years and I can >only remember about 4 or 5 errors. Myself in 7 months has found more >errors then that in a Version 5 compiler!!! Have you tried taking the code you're writing now, probably much more complicated, with more extensive generics, representation specs, etc. and run it against that version 1 compiler? There's no telling how old the compiler you're using is, or whether it is current for the operating system you're running on. >I am at the point of >bypassing the recompile facilities and building my own Unix scripts >for recompiling and linking. I did that years ago. It helps me out when I port to the PC, although I did see that Meridian's latest summer release has a recompilation facility. As I start to gain confidence in the accurate execution of these things, I'll use them. Until then, I send in bug reports. >So tell me, am I the only one??? No. But it's not the only compiler. I have found this true with numerous compilers. >Tell me I'm not going insane, I'm >almost regretting moving from C to Ada (now that's desperate). ... or language. Surprise, surprise - I even have to work around bugs in the GNU cc. This is from mail years (literally ago) when I was actually semi-moderating info-ada and the same sort of thing started up with TeleSoft. We here at TeleSoft whole-heartedly agree with your posting that asked people NOT to submit compiler questions/results/complaints over info-ada [/comp.lang.ada]. Hopefully, people will follow this wonderful advice and save both your time and theirs. The correct route to take IS directly to the vendor. Like most folks out there, we can be reached by email. If you've got ARPAnet connections, then mailing to [address deleted for fear it is too old - can somebody at TeleSoft fill in?] Of course, the telephone has worked for many satisfied customers. Anyone with a product should have the vendor's phone number somewhere in the documentation. Ours is (619)457-2700. Once again, thanks for encouraging the readers of info-ada to make proper use of the channels that vendors have built to care for their user's in the most effective way possible. -- Karl -- Karl A. Nyberg karl@grebyn.com Post Office Box 497 Grebyn Corporation Vienna, VA 22183-0497 USA +1-703-281-2194 Disclaimer: Meridian, TeleSoft and Verdix (among others) buy a lot of my products and services at market rates. Have you gotten YOUR own copy of the Annotated Ada Reference Manual from YOUR compiler vendor yet? :-)