From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,b30bd69fa8f63cb2 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-06-12 11:40:37 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: snarflemike@yahoo.com (Mike Silva) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: C bug of the day Date: 12 Jun 2003 11:40:36 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Message-ID: <20619edc.0306121040.2fea0695@posting.google.com> References: <1054751321.434656@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 154.6.152.68 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1055443236 3543 127.0.0.1 (12 Jun 2003 18:40:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 12 Jun 2003 18:40:36 GMT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:39058 Date: 2003-06-12T18:40:36+00:00 List-Id: Vinzent Hoefler wrote in message news:... > Kevin Cline wrote: > > >Vinzent Hoefler wrote in message > news:... > >> kanze@gabi-soft.fr wrote: > >> > >> > I'd rather have a language > >> >in which all of the defaults were fundamentally safe, but with the > >> >freedom to override them if you had special constraints, or even in > >> >cases where you came across a case which the language authors hadn't > >> >considered. I don't know such a language, however; it may exist > >> >somewhere, but if it does, it certainly isn't very popular or wide > >> >spread. > >> > >> And that's been posted to comp.lang.ada? ;-) > > > >Sorry, Ada doesn't solve this problem. > > In what respect? The primary question was about safety, not some kind > of hyper-versatility. And the safety problem cannot be solved with C++ > and an STL. Yes, it seems like the objection is that Ada doesn't "solve this problem" because at some point a programmer will actually have to write code, and that code may have bugs. True, but nothing to do with "all of the defaults were fundamentally safe." Mike