From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fdb77,5f529c91be2ac930 X-Google-Attributes: gidfdb77,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,59ec73856b699922 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,583275b6950bf4e6 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-05-12 10:23:33 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: snarflemike@yahoo.com (Mike Silva) Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.object,comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Using Ada for device drivers? (Was: the Ada mandate, and why it collapsed and died) Date: 12 May 2003 10:23:33 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Message-ID: <20619edc.0305120923.1ccfa3be@posting.google.com> References: <9fa75d42.0304230424.10612b1a@posting.google.com> <9fa75d42.0305010621.55e99deb@posting.google.com> <0-WcnWfafqsNpiyjXTWcqw@gbronline.com> <1051804573.732603@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> <3EBE9BD4.1050008@attbi.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 154.6.152.68 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1052760213 21990 127.0.0.1 (12 May 2003 17:23:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 12 May 2003 17:23:33 GMT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.java.advocacy:63588 comp.object:63248 comp.lang.ada:37243 Date: 2003-05-12T17:23:33+00:00 List-Id: Hyman Rosen wrote in message news:... > John R. Strohm wrote: > > Let's see, are you saying we shouldn't eliminate the simple problems because > > we can't eliminate the hard problems at the same time? > > No. But there very often seems to be a lack of acknowledgement of the > hard problems. The impression I get from the Ada folks very often is > that Ada will give you error-free code, or at the very least, errors > will be detected and reported. OK, let's just all get ourselves on record. I'll start: I, an Ada programmer of sound mind and body, acknowledge that there are hard problems that Ada does not catch. I further acknowledge that Ada will not catch each and every error which I am capable of committing. Lastly, I acknowledge that there are many problem types which Ada is much more competent than I am to catch, and that by using Ada I subject myself to shorter hours at work and more domestic tranquility at home, and further that I rarely get to have the best debugging war stories in the company lunchroom. Mike