From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,WEIRD_PORT autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,2573df63ff37c586 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Received: by 10.204.149.210 with SMTP id u18mr1097639bkv.1.1335953982888; Wed, 02 May 2012 03:19:42 -0700 (PDT) Path: h15ni189916bkw.0!nntp.google.com!news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Ludovic Brenta Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Adaforge? Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 03:12:20 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <20524276.2208.1335953540520.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbqq1> References: <10872380.887.1335622497447.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbbfr18> NNTP-Posting-Host: 153.98.68.197 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: posting.google.com 1335953982 7473 127.0.0.1 (2 May 2012 10:19:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 10:19:42 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <10872380.887.1335622497447.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbbfr18> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=153.98.68.197; posting-account=pcLQNgkAAAD9TrXkhkIgiY6-MDtJjIlC User-Agent: G2/1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Date: 2012-05-02T03:12:20-07:00 List-Id: mockturtle wrote on comp.lang.ada: > I was wondering if it could be worth to try to collect all > this stuff in a centralized place, kind of "rubyforge" for > Ruby Yes, but it is impractical given the present state of affairs and there are better ways to spend your precious time. After reading this thread with great interest I have come to the following conclusions: * there is no need for a new web site. Instead, it is better to contribute meaningful content to the the existing AdaIC and Ada Programming Wikibook sites. (The latter already has several pages full of links to libraries). * We don't need another forge. Existing Ada-centric forges already include http://forge.ada-ru.org, http://www.ada-france.org:8081, http://codelabs.ch and http://scm.ada.cx. General-purpose forges containing Ada sources include Tigris, Berlios, SourceForge. I probably forgot some. Dmitry, Stephe and a few other individuals host their sources on their private web sites. I think it is better to improve the existing forges than to create a new one. * Each of the aforementioned Ada-centric forges relies on one or two dedicated, enthusiastic, skilled volunteers for maintenance. This is bad. A good idea, for someone skilled and interested in forges, is to join one of them as an administrator. * Instead of asking all developers to migrate to the same forge, it might be a better idea to ask them to add a link to their projects in the Ada wikibook (section 2.6, "Other language libraries"). Thus the existing wikibook can serve as the central place where people can discover tools and libraries. * As Dmitry well pointed out, there is a difference between hosting sources and hosting binaries. My stance on this matter is probably well-known on this newsgroup. In short, binaries belong in the general-purpose repositories of their target platforms; only this can give these binaries the visibility they deserve. IOW, the packages should be in the official Debian/Fedora/FreeBSD/Cygwin/Slackware/whatever repository if one exists. Windows lacks such a repository, so for Windows the fallback is to publish the binaries alongside the sources. -- Ludovic Brenta. The sales manager influences our adaptive Management Information System, while top-line, granular, style guidelines drive our blended approach.