From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,8295d69277f1696c X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Received: by 10.68.238.67 with SMTP id vi3mr6791854pbc.6.1337190704178; Wed, 16 May 2012 10:51:44 -0700 (PDT) Path: pr3ni6035pbb.0!nntp.google.com!news2.google.com!goblin3!goblin.stu.neva.ru!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!reality.xs3.de!news.jacob-sparre.dk!munin.jacob-sparre.dk!pnx.dk!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Tero Koskinen Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: understanding runtime support Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 20:51:40 +0300 Organization: Jacob Sparre Andersen Research & Innovation Message-ID: <20120516205140.00c708f35199f0d749a82488@iki.fi> References: <28695516.0.1336708147839.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@pbcqw9> <28843126.1576.1336884548623.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynff7> <31100317.2013.1336922789420.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynmb39> <7948724.2.1336983886678.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yneo6> <32791890.97.1336995087800.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yneo6> <8547012.586.1337020482714.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynlq12> <28034736.36.1337025896359.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynll26> <10099625.0.1337029342748.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yneh4> NNTP-Posting-Host: dsl-trebrasgw2-fe9cde00-96.dhcp.inet.fi Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: munin.nbi.dk 1337190700 14292 80.222.156.96 (16 May 2012 17:51:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@jacob-sparre.dk NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 17:51:40 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Sylpheed 3.2.0beta6 (GTK+ 2.24.8; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: 2012-05-16T20:51:40+03:00 List-Id: On Tue, 15 May 2012 01:48:08 -0500 "Randy Brukardt" wrote: > One needs customers in order to make the large investments needed in this > sort of technology. RRS, at least, has never had anyone express any real > interest in ARM targets, so we've never even thought about such machines. Well, since I could be considered as RRS customer, you now know one who is interested in running Ada on ARM. Last year, I queried three Ada vendors (although not RR Software) and asked whether they had some sort of support for ARM. Two of them didn't have and third one was willing to do it for $$$$$ euros, so in the end, I purchased ARM board (Gumstix Overo) capable of running Debian armhf, and ported FSF GNAT there myself. >From vendors, I originally asked Ada compiler for a smaller ARM microcontroller without MMU or any kind of OS (=bareboard version), but like Raspberry Pi has shown, more powerful ARM systems can be pretty cheap and small also. > > Things rarely happen for free, you know. FSF GNAT for Debian armhf is available for free (if you can accept GMGPL license). The .deb packages are now located at http://iki.fi/tero.koskinen/debian/armhf/deb-packages/ , but I hope that they end up to official Debian repositories at some point. Have fun. :) -- Tero Koskinen - http://iki.fi/tero.koskinen/ PS. Of course, since I have now GNAT for ARM, I don't expect to have Janus/Ada for ARM.