From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,1db77fbb2768946e X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-10-03 19:58:31 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cyclone2.usenetserver.com!usenetserver.com!sjc-peer.news.verio.net!news.verio.net!sea-read.news.verio.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada From: Brian Rogoff Subject: Re: Is Linux right for Embedded? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20011003194038.R25905-100000@shell5.ba.best.com> References: <3BB69F21.B5AA7451@intercom.com> <9pcvbn$r52$1@xmission.xmission.com> <9pd4s402bga@drn.newsguy.com> <9pfcps$p0l$1@xmission.xmission.com> <9pfeiu$cfr$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <9pfj8a$ebc$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <9pfuqg$ikl$1@nh.pace.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 02:58:30 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.184.139.136 X-Complaints-To: abuse@verio.net X-Trace: sea-read.news.verio.net 1002164310 206.184.139.136 (Thu, 04 Oct 2001 02:58:30 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 02:58:30 GMT Organization: Verio Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:13701 Date: 2001-10-04T02:58:30+00:00 List-Id: On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, Preben Randhol wrote: > On Wed, 3 Oct 2001 17:09:35 -0400, Marin David Condic wrote: > > Or phrased another way: "'Good Enough' Is Not Nearly So Wonderful A Thing As > > 'Perfect', But Its Good Enough!" > > > > Everything you say is true, but when talking to people who develop > > throw-away code, the emphasis should be on time-to-market and reliability > > rather than long-term benefits such as reduced maintenance or reusable code. > > I cannot see that Ada wouldn't accommodate on all these areas. :-) No smiley necessary here IMO. If the competiting language is another low level language (I consider Ada relatively low level, with no pejorative intended) like C or C++, there is no disadvantage in using Ada, even with regards to speed of development. I have way more C experience, and I find it much more pleasant to "hack" in Ada than C. That's not to say that such an approach is good, but when people argue that Ada development is laborious and time consuming I'm forced to ask "Compared to what?". Maybe compared to Erlang, sure, but that may not be a good choice for other reasons. > I don't expect the Software Industry to clean up its act themselves. Good, you won't be disappointed. I'm just scared about the reported trend away from Ada in defense projects. I don't want those nuclear tipped cruise missiles missing their various terrorist base targets, and I don't think that we can convince to many of our guys to ride them Slim Pickens style all the way to target :-). -- Brian