From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Not null feature with anonymous and named access types
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 10:21:34 +0200
Date: 2006-06-15T10:21:28+02:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1xjx7454hmql7.14ype2u114tz2.dlg@40tude.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1150343308.372654.225640@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
On 14 Jun 2006 20:48:28 -0700, Anh Vo wrote:
> Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
>> On 14 Jun 2006 08:37:13 -0700, Anh Vo wrote:
>>
>> via *this* pointer, which does not mean that it cannot be reclaimed at all.
>> Consider trivial stack allocated aliased variable.
>
> I am afraid I do not understand "this* pointer means.
You can have many pointers and other references to the same memory.
> What I was
> talking about not null access object using heap memory, not aliased
> variable at all. See my code snipet from my original post.
That's no problem. You just shouldn't mix referencing objects and memory
management. Not-null access types aren't intended for memory management. So
your example is flawed [*].
>> No, you just don't use not-null pointers where deallocation is possible /
>> necessary. That's the very idea of not-null pointers.
>
> I weight memory leak more important than convenient way of using null
> excluded pointer. I am fine with not null pointer pointing to an
> aliased object. In this case, attemptingp to deallocate the pointer is
> clearly a language violation.
But an aliased object, in a wider sense, that you have a more than one
reference to it, is the only case where non-null pointer should be used!
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* There is a language design problem that not-null is a subtype constraint
rather than a type, so Ada.Unchecked_Deallocation cannot reject
instantiation with a not-null pointer, as it probably should. But that is a
problem of generics, not of null-pointers. But this is another story.
--
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de
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Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-06-12 20:33 Not null feature with anonymous and named access types Anh Vo
2006-06-12 21:26 ` Björn Persson
2006-06-12 23:13 ` Anh Vo
2006-06-13 7:53 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-06-13 15:27 ` Anh Vo
2006-06-14 15:13 ` Alex R. Mosteo
2006-06-14 15:37 ` Anh Vo
2006-06-14 17:00 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-06-15 3:48 ` Anh Vo
2006-06-15 8:21 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2006-06-17 1:21 ` Randy Brukardt
2006-06-17 8:24 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-06-17 14:24 ` Robert A Duff
2006-06-19 23:17 ` Randy Brukardt
2006-06-15 10:50 ` Alex R. Mosteo
2006-06-17 1:16 ` Randy Brukardt
2006-06-17 14:25 ` Robert A Duff
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