From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: a07f3367d7,9983e856ed268154 X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Received: by 10.204.129.81 with SMTP id n17mr1613450bks.3.1345554732496; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 06:12:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.106.199 with SMTP id gw7mr2441366wib.0.1345554732052; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 06:12:12 -0700 (PDT) Path: m12ni120251bkm.0!nntp.google.com!news1.google.com!7no32928631wig.0!news-out.google.com!n2ni242590336win.0!nntp.google.com!feeder1-2.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder1-1.proxad.net!ecngs!feeder2.ecngs.de!78.46.240.70.MISMATCH!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!news.mixmin.net!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Should Inline be private in the private part of a package spec? Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 15:12:31 +0200 Organization: cbb software GmbH Message-ID: <1vglgit7vnu4l$.2ytljabrhk2.dlg@40tude.net> References: <501bd285$0$6564$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> <502bc4df$0$6574$9b4e6d93@newsspool3.arcor-online.net> <502bd3e6$0$6574$9b4e6d93@newsspool3.arcor-online.net> <17qgsq5y7or0v.16z18fmcew1lt$.dlg@40tude.net> <502c149e$0$6579$9b4e6d93@newsspool3.arcor-online.net> <502cd701$0$6568$9b4e6d93@newsspool3.arcor-online.net> <502d3c68$0$6572$9b4e6d93@newsspool3.arcor-online.net> <502e9039$0$6557$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> <40tmogy4d1b5.1kc2gm8qfrkdu.dlg@40tude.net> <503240ed$0$6569$9b4e6d93@newsspool3.arcor-online.net> <50326457$0$6576$9b4e6d93@newsspool3.arcor-online.net> <1qril0ny3eczr$.1vlhpbrjyyb8k.dlg@40tude.net> <503375ac$0$6565$9b4e6d93@newsspool3.arcor-online.net> Reply-To: mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de NNTP-Posting-Host: FbOMkhMtVLVmu7IwBnt1tw.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.15.1 X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: 2012-08-21T15:12:31+02:00 List-Id: On Tue, 21 Aug 2012 13:49:03 +0200, Georg Bauhaus wrote: > On 20.08.12 21:28, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: > >>> Related Example that has been part of this discussion, >>> and concern compiler configuration files: >> >> We have an excellent example how unmanageable Visual Studio became when MS >> switched to XML. > > 1) For a reason, I have carefully avoided to say "XML". I have not > given syntax, but I have described a meaningful process involving > different consumers of text documents (configuration files), and have > described a need to transform/adapt a set of specific configuration > instructions for each of the different compilers. Configuration is a file? You should explain why the configuration's container must be a file, even more why that file must be a text file. But in any case configuration is never a document. > 2) But I did explain that "obfuscating companies" like Microsoft are > very good at leveraging misuse of XML (or anything, at that) > for commercial gain, predictably. I see, it is all Microsoft's fault! Unfortunately no matter how or by whom XML is used it always turns to be a misuse. When AdaCore does that, and it does this in GPS, it becomes no less mess than when MS does. Maybe, there is something wrong with XML itself? >> But you forgot that you once called XML documentation. > > (Please, show me where I said documentation. I remember to have > said "data document".) You said "text document" in very same response. And "data document" is rubbish, unless means document serving as a data [source/item] for something or someone. >> It became a language by now? > > I did not say language either. That is the problem. You are using intentionally vague language and refuse to consider practical or formalized cases. -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de