From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,fef3ad775ef4b0b7 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news2.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!tiscali!newsfeed1.ip.tiscali.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder2-2.proxad.net!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsspool2.arcor-online.net!news.arcor.de.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Subject: Re: Ada for 1st year students Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.15.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de Organization: cbb software GmbH References: <60e0c5f0-1e17-4add-b21e-b1ef622d5233@v13g2000pro.googlegroups.com> <6gj2s5-0f9.ln1@newserver.thecreems.com> <543356bc-7862-45d2-9004-dfef69deab26@79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 16:08:09 +0200 Message-ID: <1ujiscvmuttxs$.1qaf0kiw4lrdc.dlg@40tude.net> NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Oct 2008 16:08:10 CEST NNTP-Posting-Host: 0b5f0f14.newsspool3.arcor-online.net X-Trace: DXC=Z^O]N`6Qbn\=>bdbdS?M0YMcF=Q^Z^V3X4Fo<]lROoRQ8kF_EN@;PTdYYIY X-Complaints-To: usenet-abuse@arcor.de Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:2354 Date: 2008-10-13T16:08:10+02:00 List-Id: On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:10:28 +0100, Colin Paul Gloster wrote: > On Sun, 12 Oct 2008, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: > >|--------------------------------------------------------------------------| >|"On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 06:00:51 -0700 (PDT), John McCormick wrote: | >| | >|> It never ceases to amaze me how computer science educators want to use | >|> bleeding edge technology in the beginning courses. | >| | >|I don't see anything bad in that. It is the question what is considered as| >|a bleeding edge. Ada is certainly one in large, high-integrity, concurrent| >|systems design. It also has a very innovative OO types system. (However, | >|there are problems with irregularity, MI, MD). It is a question of how do | >|you sell it." | >|--------------------------------------------------------------------------| > > What is bleeding edge in Ada? > > How can bleeding edge technology be risked in high-integrity systems? Very simple, because the complexity of high-integrity systems grows fast, as they *necessarily* become networking, distributed and multi-tasking. We need new technologies of software design in order to keep such systems integral and affordable. So the risk is here, anyway. Use of traditional MISRA C only increases the risk, after a certain grade of complexity has been reached. -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de