From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,99e73f65ea2533b9 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!news4.google.com!feeder1-2.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder1-1.proxad.net!club-internet.fr!feedme-small.clubint.net!newsfeed-fusi2.netcologne.de!news.netcologne.de!newsfeed-hp2.netcologne.de!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsspool1.arcor-online.net!news.arcor.de.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Subject: Re: and then... (a curiosity) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.15.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de Organization: cbb software GmbH References: <18b41828-bda4-4484-8884-ad62ce1c831d@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups.com> <57qdnfULQ9tzKCHVnZ2dnUVZ_tHinZ2d@comcast.com> <48bd0003$1@news.post.ch> <48bf90bf$0$30032$dbd4d001@news.euronet.nl> Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 18:33:30 +0200 Message-ID: <1tm4gzcy6psv7$.xon8yk0ehqlf.dlg@40tude.net> NNTP-Posting-Date: 04 Sep 2008 18:33:34 CEST NNTP-Posting-Host: af5a9637.newsspool4.arcor-online.net X-Trace: DXC=H\U]?X94W9P@@RW1FjIB5S4IUK On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 14:12:57 +0200, stefan-lucks@see-the.signature wrote: > BTW, why do you think that an exception, such as a Constraint_Error, > should logically count as a contradiction? > > Dividing something by zero is undefined, not a contradiction. Undefined is a too vague term. When a mathematician tells that X/0 > 100 is undefined he usually means that X/0 > 100 has no interpretation. But "X/0 > 100 = _|_" has an interpretation. Namely: m(X/0 in ]100,oo[)=1, m(X/0 not in = ]100,oo[)=1. I.e. it is both possible for X/0 be in ]100,oo[ or in its complement. This is uncertainty. "X/0 > 100 = T" means that neither is possible (contradiction). This "contradiction" is closer to an intuitive understanding of X/0 > 100, yet it is not the standard mathematical meaning of, which is that X/0 > 100 is not a formula at all. -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de