From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: function Is_Open (File : File_Type) return Boolean; :Text_io Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 14:37:23 +0100 Organization: cbb software GmbH Message-ID: <1quu0fn66x4br$.1f1x6de5oto9u$.dlg@40tude.net> References: <87twpd2qlo.fsf@theworld.com> <1pj15r7pul7f1.15qgdyrc8k133$.dlg@40tude.net> <87pp0030c1.fsf@theworld.com> <135hiczk56x02.1xixcme8btbl4.dlg@40tude.net> <1dzlgoh4u2j7t$.1un3dfy0oeigd$.dlg@40tude.net> <190shqocxd87d$.1d68ghgqgbvfs$.dlg@40tude.net> <87d1vy3f46.fsf@theworld.com> <7e1b4b17-c769-4aa5-a085-a2ccf2ac75ea@googlegroups.com> Reply-To: mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de NNTP-Posting-Host: TWQ9mg4k1m/sph/eQ+zHLA.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.15.1 X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:28114 Date: 2015-10-29T14:37:23+01:00 List-Id: On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 04:25:06 -0700 (PDT), AdaMagica wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 28. Oktober 2015 22:02:17 UTC+1 schrieb Dmitry A. Kazakov: >>> In Ada, we can write: >>> >>> type Gizmo_Count is range 0 .. 2**10; >>> Num_Gizmos: Gizmo_Count := 0; >>> >>> IMHO, documenting the 0..1024 requirement in executable code is much >>> better than using a comment: >> >> How is that documenting? It is a direct instruction to the compiler. >> Documentation is addressed to the human reader. >> >> The advantage of Ada over C is that where in Ada you can instruct, in C the >> only way is to document. > > IMHO, this is again a case of Dmitry's special nomenclature: It is the standard meaning of the word: to record something in written, graphic or other form; to support or accompany with documentation. > I think the Ada community has a different bias: Expressing requirements, > i.e. documentation, in code is preferable. Actually there are people in c.l.a. against excessive commenting. > Thus we use Natural rather than > Integer for counting, use constraints like above in Gizmo. And we call > this *documenting*. This is both, an instruction for the compiler *and* > information addressed to the reader. So, according to you X : Integer; -- Undocumented Y : Natural; -- Documented Don't you find it a bit silly? There is no difference between both. BTW, any numeric type in Ada is constrained => "documented", according to you. -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de