From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: a07f3367d7,7c1ca6be7961c074 X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!news2.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsspool3.arcor-online.net!news.arcor.de.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Subject: Re: OT?: AF 447 and avionics software Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.15.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de Organization: cbb software GmbH References: <78pifuF1k9uvuU1@mid.individual.net> <2fb5ee80-6a89-4df1-b4a7-e0922f179f68@h18g2000yqj.googlegroups.com> <7b4aed55-0885-4513-8db7-c42879e5f341@o14g2000vbo.googlegroups.com> <1rch37lwiyzwo$.1fpcy7enfzac6$.dlg@40tude.net> <87k53oz43l.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de> <93m565n17lwa.1qlyl66zsirjb.dlg@40tude.net> <39b9fe37-cb69-4385-907a-ffd7abf6c9be@f19g2000yqo.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 09:36:42 +0200 Message-ID: <1qfoqe341dlys.17r9kxgsybg3o.dlg@40tude.net> NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Jun 2009 09:36:41 CEST NNTP-Posting-Host: 0443ff9e.newsspool3.arcor-online.net X-Trace: DXC=UagQB;8]=WK0YVY]kmLTlDMcF=Q^Z^V3H4Fo<]lROoRA^YC2XCjHcbI1obUf_i?@_GDNcfSJ;bb[EFCTGGVUmh?DLK[5LiR>kgBPgoKXib>olK X-Complaints-To: usenet-abuse@arcor.de Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:6406 Date: 2009-06-10T09:36:41+02:00 List-Id: On Tue, 9 Jun 2009 23:11:22 -0700 (PDT), MRE wrote: > On 7 Jun., 15:19, "Dmitry A. Kazakov" > wrote: >> On Sun, 07 Jun 2009 13:16:14 +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: >>> * Dmitry A. Kazakov: >> >>>> Analogue systems are continuous, whatever complexity a continuous >>>> system has it stay to some extent predictable. >> >>> Even if you've got resonance effects? >> >> Yes. An oscillation does it with finite mass and energy The acceleration is >> limited, which is another way to say that it is continuous. >> >> In a discrete computing system a huge number of states are "equidistant". >> You pay the same "price" for incrementing a register by one and for >> resetting the CPU. This allows you to make great things - you can "travel" >> to anywhere you want in very few steps - but this also makes the trajectory >> so unpredictable. >> > For a single system Dimitry may be right. If however we talk about a > network of > analog systems (which we have in flight controls), the result of a > malfunction > is as unpredictable as for a similar digital system. Thanks to chaos- > theory ;-) Well, no. A chaotic trajectory is still continuous. Chaos theory is not really as "unpredictable". A case comparable to digital systems would be systems deploying nanotechnology, they should [mis]behave much alike. P.S. I don't advocate for analogue systems. Once I saw the square root module of an analogue computer. It was about 0.5x0.5x0.5 meter size. I doubt that thing could fly. (:-)) -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de