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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Ada noob here! Is Ada widely used?
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On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 14:38:21 +0200, Yannick Duch�ne (Hibou57) wrote:

> I guess for Complex you would like constraining discriminants.

I would rather like to see Complex an implementation of field. We need
working interfaces instead of Java-like mess.

> The funny part is that I actually see generics as a way to define ADT.

A very poor way.

>> Probably yes. Macro is a macro, even if you call it generics or template.
> You can pass anything to macro. Generics are safer at least for this  
> reason.

To put a hand grenade in your pocket, is safer than in the mouth...
 
>> Some, but as I said Ada drifts towards less checks.
> Really ? I don't feel so much and don't believe most interested parties  
> will allow it.
> The introduction of DbC in the Ada 2012 language itself, even goes the  
> opposite way. Isn't it ?

You forgot that run-time check is not a check to me. It is a language
design bug. I am afraid I will like Ada 2012 even less than Ada 2005.

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Dmitry A. Kazakov
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