From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,3a9b49a9162025eb X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-02-07 01:22:06 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!iad-peer.news.verio.net!news.verio.net!newsfeed.vmunix.org!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!tar-alcarin.cbb-automation.DE!not-for-mail From: Dmitry A. Kazakov Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Bye-bye Ada ? (Ada95 Wholesale Changes?) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 10:22:04 +0100 Message-ID: <1pt64vokedvhr8bgb5pbjtelisdrnrjccg@4ax.com> References: <3E3B7BB5.A1A070@adaworks.com> <3NY_9.9226$x63.6255@nwrddc01.gnilink.net> <3E40A07A.CD174746@adaworks.com> <1044457651.769640@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> <3E42A61C.20905@cogeco.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: tar-alcarin.cbb-automation.de (212.79.194.111) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1044609725 41073788 212.79.194.111 (16 [77047]) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:33874 Date: 2003-02-07T10:22:04+01:00 List-Id: On Thu, 06 Feb 2003 13:14:52 -0500, "Warren W. Gay VE3WWG" wrote: [skip] >CURIOUSITY POLL? > >I'd be interested if anyone actually uses this type of >procedure in more "critical" application development roles. >I am sure that others must take advantage of this, if not >secretly so? ;-) Is this type of thing frowned upon by >DOD projects, or do they even know this type of thing >happens? Just curious. I am using this technique for both C++ and Ada, mostly because the strategy of our firm and our customers is: "very quick and incredibly dirty". (:-)) It works perfectly in Ada, but has serious problems in C++, especially with MS VC++, which is unable to recompile as necessary, even if precompiled hearders are not used (this feature does not work anyway). It is disastrous because a recompile-all lasts for 4-hours to see how thousands compile errors appear on the screen. Add here, that during compilation one cannot edit because of a "perfect" team work of MS IDE and the operating system, which block the whole system for 10-15 sec during code generation and linking. The project is large indeed, and it seems so that we pushed it to the very limit of what could be done with C++, probably beyond it. --- Regards, Dmitry Kazakov www.dmitry-kazakov.de