From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,aaabba5db6b5df34 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!news4.google.com!feeder.news-service.com!news.netcologne.de!newsfeed-fusi2.netcologne.de!newsfeed.straub-nv.de!newsfeed.utanet.at!newsfeed01.chello.at!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsspool4.arcor-online.net!news.arcor.de.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Subject: Re: Min/Max attribute makes promises it can't keep Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.15.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de Organization: cbb software GmbH References: <98b7e6f2-32ed-465c-9a52-541b7878ca86@y17g2000yqd.googlegroups.com> <9b17e781-f46a-4384-8809-b16602d10114@y30g2000yqh.googlegroups.com> <880dc0f0-7fff-440d-8aad-6ce745fcfed8@h27g2000yqm.googlegroups.com> <246a7cec-bd5f-4c48-a6cb-3874080c19ab@y17g2000yqd.googlegroups.com> <591866ec-fa46-440c-b6fc-3092985ae3df@r27g2000yqn.googlegroups.com> <8ab2d2d1-b7dc-47bf-824f-4cab334a3fd6@11g2000yqr.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 15:41:16 +0200 Message-ID: <1pbp1hhh5yb9k.b6b9xs33b4od$.dlg@40tude.net> NNTP-Posting-Date: 28 Apr 2010 15:41:13 CEST NNTP-Posting-Host: afcf2e49.newsspool1.arcor-online.net X-Trace: DXC==m^`FH6Dh9Ck:C4l9A;OcOic==]BZ:afN4Fo<]lROoRA<`=YMgDjhgBXeEk@>I_9LH[6LHn;2LCVN[ On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 04:47:42 -0700 (PDT), AdaMagica wrote: >>> But the prefix of an attribute reference does not specify a >>> constraint. >> >>> Integer'Min, Positive'Min, Natural'Min are all the same. >> >> But it should, at least in the case of Min/Max. >> Integer'Min, Positive'Min, Natural'Min being all the same breaches the >> spirit of the Ada language (what you see is what it means). >> A topic for Ada 201z... > > We could have had is thus and unconstrained Min as Positive'Base'Min > when Min was introduced... > > But it is as it is, and your proposal would be a severe > incompatibility, so it won't fly. Well, the proposal might be to fix rather the issue of the superfluous subtype specification. Obviously Max (and many other attributes) are primitive operations and need no subtype to specify. So: X'Succ, X'Pred, X'Image Specifically max and min should be a dyadic operations: function "max" (Left, Right : T) return T'Base; (and, please, no new reserved keywords!) -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de