From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,666bab5bfbdf30c2 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!news3.google.com!feeder.news-service.com!tudelft.nl!txtfeed1.tudelft.nl!zen.net.uk!dedekind.zen.co.uk!npeer.de.kpn-eurorings.net!npeer-ng0.de.kpn-eurorings.net!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsspool2.arcor-online.net!news.arcor.de.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Subject: Re: Generating PDFs with Ada Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.15.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de Organization: cbb software GmbH References: <4d2908c7$0$22120$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> <9f23e50a-2c2c-4ccc-bd56-f6ffdc6c7ee7@37g2000prx.googlegroups.com> <82aaj73jsr.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <7a048419-1126-45b2-bfa9-26f3ad6e480e@fu15g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 17:43:22 +0100 Message-ID: <1mc698r7h5jts$.19bumq8gpveyh.dlg@40tude.net> NNTP-Posting-Date: 16 Jan 2011 17:43:17 CET NNTP-Posting-Host: b62e087c.newsspool4.arcor-online.net X-Trace: DXC=Y\6d^IVC`HBj7E:bke<5HF4IUK0YE>0KM1^:VcGj4jnO X-Complaints-To: usenet-abuse@arcor.de Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:17426 Date: 2011-01-16T17:43:17+01:00 List-Id: On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 14:25:53 +0000, (see below) wrote: > On 16/01/2011 12:57, in article olao885lpaij$.1273idj6ytssc$.dlg@40tude.net, > "Dmitry A. Kazakov" wrote: > >> On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 11:59:18 +0000, Simon Wright wrote: >> >>> Suppose we decide to have books with chapters with paragraphs. Are we >>> going to say >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> Let's not. Documents have no such structure. When imposed on, this >> structure makes usage of the documents very difficult. ... > > There was a fad in the '70s for program editors that worked on the basis of > a similar structure, but derived from the syntax of the programming > language. I don't care much about the internal representation of the documents. In particular because I don't think that document should be programmed (TeX was all wrong idea). > I never used any of them for more than half an hour because the > kinds of things one wants to do when doing serious editing of source code > simply do not respect the boundaries of syntactic constructs. Yes, I think the point is important. There is another example of this. Visual X-Tools is the worst ever IDE made, for this reason. (For those lucky, who never heard about it, X-tools render the source code in a way that visualize the program control structure. E.g. then-part of an if-statement on the left and the else-part of the right, a sort of textual block-diagrams.) -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de