From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: f8899,3c634d3864722c74 X-Google-Thread: 10dd18,3c634d3864722c74 X-Google-Thread: f4fd2,3c634d3864722c74 X-Google-Thread: 103376,3c634d3864722c74 X-Google-Attributes: gidf8899,gid10dd18,gidf4fd2,gid103376,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news4.google.com!out03b.usenetserver.com!news.usenetserver.com!in02.usenetserver.com!news.usenetserver.com!cycny01.gnilink.net!spamkiller.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!trnddc02.POSTED!2bd68fb6!not-for-mail From: Tim Roberts Newsgroups: comp.lang.haskell,comp.lang.python,comp.lang.lisp,comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Choosing a new language Organization: Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc. Message-ID: <1m3pn3pntfj99vd85gedvplrlonv96p1ea@4ax.com> References: <20071228162351.f29a3ce4.coolzone@it.dk> <81737bc2-99df-4295-b894-19d3ba47662e@c4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1117 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2008 07:32:37 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 71.182.75.75 X-Complaints-To: abuse@verizon.net X-Trace: trnddc02 1199345557 71.182.75.75 (Thu, 03 Jan 2008 02:32:37 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2008 02:32:37 EST Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.haskell:1048 comp.lang.python:161542 comp.lang.lisp:76785 comp.lang.ada:19167 Date: 2008-01-03T07:32:37+00:00 List-Id: kevin cline wrote: > >As if there were such a thing as an 'Ada programmer'. Any decent >programmer should be productive in Ada long before their security >clearance is approved. That's only true because the security clearance process has become so complicated. Ada is not a trivial language by any means. Even an experienced C programmer is going to find enough sharp edges to send him back to the reference manuals on a regular basis. >The real problem the DoD has is that defense work is not attractive to >the best and brightest. Bull crap. You don't HEAR about them because of that same security clearance issue, but some of the most complicated and certainly some of the LARGEST computing systems in the world come out of the DoD. You don't create reliable large systems using a corral full of bright-eyed college new hires. -- Tim Roberts, timr@probo.com Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.