From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,a0be06fbc0dd71f1 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news4.google.com!feeder1-2.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder2-2.proxad.net!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsspool4.arcor-online.net!news.arcor.de.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Subject: Re: The future of Ada is at risk Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.15.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de Organization: cbb software GmbH References: <20071229040639.f753f982.coolzone@it.dk> Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 12:14:50 +0100 Message-ID: <1lhdapnncgsmt$.1n3gsvhcmtw2t.dlg@40tude.net> NNTP-Posting-Date: 29 Dec 2007 12:14:51 CET NNTP-Posting-Host: 0fbc0a0c.newsspool3.arcor-online.net X-Trace: DXC=lJ9ENGN`=cmfF8a^:6>b7eMcF=Q^Z^V3h4Fo<]lROoRa4nDHegD_]Refoo On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 04:06:39 +0100, Rico Secada wrote: > I have been doing a lot of research about the usage of Ada, both in > industry and in the Open Source community. I am possible writing a paper > on the issue and needs some constructive criticism. > > I have reached the following conclusions: > > 1. Many companies are moving away from Ada towards C/C++. Many has > already moved during the past 10 years. I think that the wave already passed. Everybody who didn't want Ada has get rid of it long ago. Ada has nothing to loose here. > 2. Very few projects exists on Sourceforge and Freshmeat compared to > other languages like C++, Java, Python and others. True. There is little interest in Ada among the open source movement. I think there are reasons for that. Much depends on how a programming language recruits followers and how people come into open source. But this might be more an issue of the open source model than of the language. > 3. This is the biggest problem: Ada lacks free support on all > platforms. Hmm, Ada definitely lacks support on the platforms where it were obviously superior to any other languages (massively parallel, embedded, real-time, gaming, distributed computing). But that is not *all*, though maybe they will become "key" platforms in some near future. > Problems with GNU GNAT and platform independence seems to be the one > major reason why Ada isn't a moving target. It is just unfair to address this to AdaCore. There are of course numerous problems with AdaCore's policy, but the fact is, - we have an open source industrial-strength Ada compiler thank to AdaCore efforts. Ada community is to weak to maintain an Ada compiler. Otherwise, that would have happened long time ago. Happy New Year! -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de