From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: If not Ada, what else... Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 15:59:01 +0200 Organization: cbb software GmbH Message-ID: <1k0hbgqg1q5vf$.v9jnyn7sa6sk.dlg@40tude.net> References: <877fq9uj6g.fsf@theworld.com> <65061686-5c8f-433b-9b11-9e228298158e@googlegroups.com> <87k2u96jms.fsf@jester.gateway.sonic.net> <06f8a6f9-d219-4d40-b9ac-8518e93839bd@googlegroups.com> <87y4io63jy.fsf@jester.gateway.sonic.net> <7a29d3e9-d1bd-4f4a-b1a6-14d3e1a83a4d@googlegroups.com> <87mvz36fen.fsf@jester.gateway.sonic.net> <2215b44f-8a89-47c6-a4c4-52b74d2dac45@googlegroups.com> <9e492c82-868d-43d3-a18a-38274400e337@googlegroups.com> <40184feb-4053-4ac3-8eaa-c3bd9cd8a77c@googlegroups.com> <10272577-945f-4682-85bc-8ad47f3653ae@googlegroups.com> <87si8i81k2.fsf@atmarama.net> <1gsux33dqvjbp$.h0prf7p7g2vn.dlg@40tude.net> <5eef3ebe-0331-4b73-8fcb-c97cf5b6b9ee@googlegroups.com> Reply-To: mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de NNTP-Posting-Host: 5ZS5s7Q3rAN7MBP/UXLPIQ.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.15.1 X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:26985 Date: 2015-07-22T15:59:01+02:00 List-Id: On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 05:53:05 -0700 (PDT), Vincent wrote: > So for me a type has both a set of values and a set of primitive operations. Set of *all* operations defined on. That still does not make operations belong to any type. An operation may take number of types. > A class type is simply a handler, an access or an interface, whatever one > calls it, Class type T'Class is the type representing values of all types derived from T. It is not a handler, not an access, not an interface, just a type. >> Then everybody agreed that the syntax of protected objects was a mistake. >> Why repeating this flawed syntax for classes? It is again about >> fundamentals, privacy is not a type property. It is of a module. > > Who said that ? I explained in other subthread. It breaks privacy and its syntax is irregular. It should have been kind of: type T is protected private; type T is protected record ... and surely one should be able to derive from it or add the "protected" aspect later to a non-protected type. -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de