From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,9dc2c03e552da989 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Received: by 10.68.196.232 with SMTP id ip8mr23437054pbc.6.1340217706301; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 11:41:46 -0700 (PDT) X-FeedAbuse: http://nntpfeed.proxad.net/abuse.pl feeded by 78.192.181.72 Path: l9ni73287pbj.0!nntp.google.com!news2.google.com!news4.google.com!feeder1-2.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder2-2.proxad.net!nntpfeed.proxad.net!78.192.181.72.MISMATCH!gegeweb.42!gegeweb.eu!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Why Ada isn't as successful as it should be Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 20:41:41 +0200 Organization: cbb software GmbH Message-ID: <1j581cgya2yf4$.1ljofookuk1q0$.dlg@40tude.net> References: <6ca01b24-9733-4698-9c2b-eb2465f4131c@googlegroups.com> Reply-To: mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de NNTP-Posting-Host: 4RFYTQ6jM/dAKFJoI0fUkg.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.15.1 X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: 2012-06-20T20:41:41+02:00 List-Id: On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 19:48:00 +0200, Yannick Duch�ne (Hibou57) wrote: > Le Wed, 20 Jun 2012 16:15:49 +0200, a �crit: > >> On Monday, June 18, 2012 8:12:20 PM UTC+2, Adam Beneschan wrote: >>> Maybe it isn't about the syntax, the verbosity, or the lack of >>> text-handling support: >>> >>> http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2012/06/beard-gallery/ >>> >> There is no any problem to write good game on ADA-2012 or build own WEB >> Browser. >> All you can do on Java, C++, C#, you can do on ADA > > Yes, what can be done with Turing Complete X can also be done with > whatever Turing Complete Y, and luckily, Ada is as much Turing Complete as > the aboves (teasing :D ). Wrong. The correct statement is: any problem which can be solved by a Turing complete system can be done in either X or Y if both are Turing-complete. That does not imply that any problem solvable in X is solvable in Y. Only Turing-complete one are. X can be more than Turing-complete. E.g. real-time clock, user input, etc available to X but not to Y. P.S. Turing had no beard. Get lost! (:-)) -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de