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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: How come Ada isn't more popular?
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On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 17:47:25 GMT, Ray Blaak wrote:

> Maciej Sobczak <no.spam@no.spam.com> writes:
>> OK. What about refcounting with smart pointers?
> 
> This form of GC actually works against your determinism goal. It simply is a
> poor form of GC, can't handle cycles, and has unpredictable execution times.

Determinism /= time bounded.

For handling cycles there are weak pointers.

> A "real" GC smoothes out the collection costs.

Yes, garbage men won't come when you throw the bag out of the doors. They
will come tomorrow, or the day after tomorrow, or maybe never. But they
will send you the bill anyway... (:-))

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Dmitry A. Kazakov
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