From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,470860aa3e635a7 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!news4.google.com!feeder1-2.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder2-2.proxad.net!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsspool3.arcor-online.net!news.arcor.de.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Subject: Re: GNAT for MS Visual Studio Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.15.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de Organization: cbb software GmbH References: <13duou81kg3sd1c@corp.supernews.com> <13f3e0vbb05s47c@corp.supernews.com> <13f6eg0te46m2a3@corp.supernews.com> Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 20:13:10 +0200 Message-ID: <1i884lvjjjkcg.3im0hk3wl8gi$.dlg@40tude.net> NNTP-Posting-Date: 21 Sep 2007 20:11:59 CEST NNTP-Posting-Host: dd8c8267.newsspool3.arcor-online.net X-Trace: DXC=o=hLlb6[JhlUoRk[hk2WalMcF=Q^Z^V3h4Fo<]lROoRa^;5]aA^R6>b9EY09GFQU]g[6LHn;2LCVn[ On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 23:27:14 -0400, William J Thomas wrote: > I'm not talking about just a programming environment. I'm talking about a > GUI builder, a program that allows me to develop graphically oriented > programs, more specifically one that would allow me to develop MS Window > Forms programs in the Ada Language!!! A resource file editor? Honestly, I never felt a necessity in anything more elaborated than that. To me a good IDE with a visual debugger is much more important. Visual Studio had definitely reached that point, definitely better than GNAT GPS. Though the latter has a par nice ideas, for example spec<->body switching, hierarchical projects etc. > I can get Visual FORTRAN and Visual Cobol all running under MS Visual > Studio, all allowing me to develop much more graphically sophisticated (and > usable) programs than I can ever dream of with any Ada compiler that now > exists under the Windows environment. That depends on what do we understand under sophisticated? Because IMO one necessary premise of making a "sophisticated" GUI is not to use anything except very basic Win32 APIs. Consider a simple example, a list box which does not crash your application after its content exceeds 32K lines in which you can write at 1ms rate without blocking the rest of UI. This is independent on whether it be in Ada or in C++. > Do you get the picture Randy, and that's another thing I want is a > PictureBox so I can go over to my property view and set the file path to my > gif file. When the file is 1GB large and located on the remote drive? But what's wrong with DrawState with DST_BITMAP? -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de