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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Little people supporting Ada, possibly through AdaCore?
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 10:08:16 +0200
Date: 2012-07-19T10:08:16+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1hz452qgkjh11$.yp4hv908u9m0$.dlg@40tude.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: op.whntugvjka8ora@aspire.local

On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 00:57:42 +0400, Vasiliy Molostov wrote:

> Dmitry A. Kazakov <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> яПНяПНяПНяПНяПН(яПН) яПН яПНяПНяПНяПНяПН яПНяПНяПНяПНяПНяПН Wed,  
> 18 Jul 2012 21:14:35 +0400:
> 
>> On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 06:33:34 -0700 (PDT), Marc C wrote:
>>
>>> An "unordered" set is an *unordered* set. It is inappropriate to expect
>>> any kind  of intrinsic or 'order of insertion' ordering of elements in
>>> such a set.
>>
>> True. However a set of truly unordered elements cannot be implemented
>> otherwise than on top of an ordered set. E.g. to be able to implement
>> membership test. Either the container imposes some order on the elements  
>> or else the elements have some arbitrary order.
> 
> how about the following:
> 
> type Unordered_Set is
> record
> 	null;
> end;
>
> type Unordered_Element (Belongs_to: access Unordered_Set)is
> record
> 	null; -- data
> end;
> 
> elements has no order between each other, except membership itself, and a  
> set has no ordering of elements also.
> 
> The membership test is very simple here: (element.belongs_to =  
> unordered'access)

How would you copy such sets?

P.S. If you put book keeping in the elements, that is no more a set of
original element. Yes it is equivalent to it in some sense. But so an
ordered set would too.

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de



  reply	other threads:[~2012-07-26 15:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-05-04 13:26 Little people supporting Ada, possibly through AdaCore? Patrick
2012-05-04 14:36 ` Marc C
2012-07-16 15:47   ` Adrian Hoe
2012-07-16 18:13     ` Marc C
2012-07-17  1:58       ` Adrian Hoe
2012-07-17  6:00         ` Thomas Løcke
2012-07-17 13:47           ` Adrian Hoe
2012-07-17 15:06             ` Thomas Løcke
2012-07-18 13:33             ` Marc C
2012-07-18 17:14               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-18 17:49                 ` Simon Wright
2012-07-18 20:57                 ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-07-19  8:08                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2012-07-19 12:12                     ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-07-19 13:22                       ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-07-21 17:01                         ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-07-20  2:51                       ` Randy Brukardt
2012-07-21 17:04                         ` Vasiliy Molostov
2012-07-19  7:45                 ` Maciej Sobczak
2012-07-19  8:23                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-19 12:42                     ` Maciej Sobczak
2012-07-19 14:05                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-19  1:01             ` gautier_niouzes
2012-05-04 17:55 ` Manuel Gomez
2012-05-04 19:59   ` okellogg
2012-05-05 17:13     ` Simon Wright
2012-05-06 16:26       ` okellogg
2012-05-06 16:42         ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-05-06 16:55           ` Simon Wright
2012-05-06 17:21             ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-05-06 19:33               ` Simon Wright
2012-05-20 13:38         ` okellogg
2012-05-05 14:17   ` Marco
2012-05-06 13:01     ` Lucretia
2012-05-04 19:28 ` gautier_niouzes
2012-05-05 13:28   ` Pascal Obry
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