From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Thread: 109fba,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Thread: 115aec,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Thread: f43e6,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,gid109fba,gid115aec,gidf43e6,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news4.google.com!news3.google.com!news.glorb.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed.arcor.de!news.arcor.de!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Teaching new tricks to an old dog (C++ -->Ada) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c++,comp.realtime,comp.software-eng User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.14.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de Organization: cbb software GmbH References: <4229bad9$0$1019$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1110032222.447846.167060@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <871xau9nlh.fsf@insalien.org> <3SjWd.103128$Vf.3969241@news000.worldonline.dk> <87r7iu85lf.fsf@insalien.org> <1110052142.832650@athnrd02> <42309456$1@news.broadpark.no> <4232ab3a$0$26547$9b4e6d93@newsread4.arcor-online.net> <1110825790.396769@athnrd02> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 21:14:04 +0100 Message-ID: <1gf23j59mnsm2.wimnrcdrb09u.dlg@40tude.net> NNTP-Posting-Date: 14 Mar 2005 21:14:04 MET NNTP-Posting-Host: 46452a5b.newsread2.arcor-online.net X-Trace: DXC=e5c4:9]2CV33JZ On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 19:29:25 GMT, Dr. Adrian Wrigley wrote: > On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 20:43:08 +0200, Ioannis Vranos wrote: > >> Dr. Adrian Wrigley wrote: >> >>> the problem as I suggested in my previous post is that you have to >>> pass in the comparison operator or hash function down the tree >>> of template/generic instantiation, (composing them along the way) >>> if you want to use maps/hashes. >> >> In the standard library containers and algorithms case you do not pass >> any function to the container. operator< is implicitly used. > > The comparison operator here seems to be a generic formal function > parameter with a default value. This must be available at instantiation. > The operator becomes part of the interface (implicitly or explicitly) for > any code instantiating the std::map. Where does the code for the > comparison operator go? It *has* to go at the point the class > is defined. This could be at the other end of a hierarchy of > generic instantiations. The result is that the implementation > requirement (needs a comparison operator) has propagated up the > generic hierarchy to some otherwise completely independent code as an > interface requirement. I'm sorry I can't explain this any better! It can be formulated in two words: "contract model" is what C++ templates lack. -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de