From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 10.107.174.35 with SMTP id x35mr1270598ioe.106.1520984116981; Tue, 13 Mar 2018 16:35:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.157.14.214 with SMTP id 80mr135100otj.9.1520984116709; Tue, 13 Mar 2018 16:35:16 -0700 (PDT) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.unit0.net!peer01.am4!peer.am4.highwinds-media.com!peer01.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!e10-v6no1886868itf.0!news-out.google.com!h73-v6ni10itb.0!nntp.google.com!e10-v6no1886863itf.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 16:35:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87lgevpxd4.fsf@nightsong.com> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=47.185.233.194; posting-account=zwxLlwoAAAChLBU7oraRzNDnqQYkYbpo NNTP-Posting-Host: 47.185.233.194 References: <1aac45bf-2baf-4ca5-9cb5-07e1748ff6b4@googlegroups.com> <7b60b237-e3c1-4d8d-abc5-8b3f9d20e1e8@googlegroups.com> <87lgevpxd4.fsf@nightsong.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <1fda5564-dcdc-4fa0-bdb8-9a53a1f9d5ee@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Trouble translating a C++ data-structure. From: "Dan'l Miller" Injection-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 23:35:16 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Received-Body-CRC: 4288257138 X-Received-Bytes: 2752 Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:50959 Date: 2018-03-13T16:35:16-07:00 List-Id: > Dan'l Miller wrote: > > Read all of Mary Shaw's work on Alphard from the 1970s. It approaches= =20 > > the problem-space that AOP tries to solve from an entirely different=20 > > perspective (which the INRIA OCaml community also pursue differently=20 > > decades later): little languages.=20 Paul Rubin wrote: > Do you have a URL? The Wikipedia article about Alphard isn't very=20 > informative. I don't see how the "little language" approach handles the= =20 > issue of cross-cutting that AOP purports to solve.=20 Well, you asking for a URL to something nearly prehistoric in the Interne= t age. But you are in luck, Google has scanned the best 37-year-old book o= n Alphard: https://books.google.com/books?id=3DtvXSBwAAQBAJ&printsec=3Dfrontcover&dq= =3Dmary+shaw+alphard++form+and+content&hl=3Den&sa=3DX&ved=3D0ahUKEwi74eHouO= rZAhVRt1MKHSZHAz4Q6AEIKTAA#v=3Donepage&q=3Dmary%20shaw%20alphard%20%20form%= 20and%20content&f=3Dfalse I would recommend Parts V, VI, VII, VIII, IX, and X and the intervening Int= erludes. The book is largely a compilation of the vision of Jon Bentley (P= rogramming Pearls), William Wulf (BLISS; C.mmp MIMD), and Mary Shaw (CMU SE= I). Keep in mind, you will not see AOP jargon & solution-space in this far= -earlier work. To see it, requires a clever reading.