From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,b78c363353551702 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Received: by 10.68.223.40 with SMTP id qr8mr8861357pbc.0.1341473091472; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 00:24:51 -0700 (PDT) Path: l9ni10938pbj.0!nntp.google.com!news1.google.com!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: about the new Ada 2012 pre/post conditions Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 09:24:57 +0200 Organization: cbb software GmbH Message-ID: <1etm46gu9c54e$.rkbmrzh5ia6$.dlg@40tude.net> References: <1mkp7fzlk1b0y.1ueinfjn48fcy$.dlg@40tude.net> <4fe72b6b$0$9504$9b4e6d93@newsspool1.arcor-online.net> <1bbvp3ghpjb5s.1go1s1qvcmagh$.dlg@40tude.net> <4fe76fad$0$9507$9b4e6d93@newsspool1.arcor-online.net> <1jt8vhzxfrv2i.eohce4d3rwx1$.dlg@40tude.net> <4fe83aaa$0$6624$9b4e6d93@newsspool2.arcor-online.net> <1pkfv0tiod3rn$.onx6dmaa3if9$.dlg@40tude.net> <1i1mp8xs3vtl2.1oc4m66qtfgzq.dlg@40tude.net> <4fe9bde5$0$6566$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> <1otknesgpcisl$.112pd12on3vsb$.dlg@40tude.net> Reply-To: mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de NNTP-Posting-Host: FbOMkhMtVLVmu7IwBnt1tw.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.15.1 X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: 2012-07-05T09:24:57+02:00 List-Id: On Wed, 4 Jul 2012 19:58:31 -0700 (PDT), Shark8 wrote: > Also, I don't know where you got the idea that pre- and post-conditions > must not implement anything. Trivial: IF pre-/post-condition is contract THEN they are not implementation [POV #2] (Historically, pre-/post-conditions were invented by Dijkstra for the purpose of proving correctness. Later they were used for types to analyze substitutability issues etc.) ELSE ... [POV #1] > If that was the case then, strictly speaking > JavaDoc's pre and postcondition annotating comments are superior to Ada's > pre and post condition because they don't implement anything and are, in > fact, just comments having no actual impact on the program text. Not if condition proof fault makes the program illegal. -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de