From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,cbdf4b7efd0b03b5 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!news2.google.com!news.glorb.com!news2.arglkargh.de!noris.net!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsspool1.arcor-online.net!news.arcor.de.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Subject: Re: Decline? Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.15.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de Organization: cbb software GmbH References: <47d7de50$0$89175$157c6196@dreader1.cybercity.dk> <6401244f-3062-4f4a-8f19-4e71b6b1ff11@n75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:02:53 +0100 Message-ID: <1damvl7guwzsk$.83gvpkinmjhi.dlg@40tude.net> NNTP-Posting-Date: 12 Mar 2008 19:02:53 CET NNTP-Posting-Host: 32febe62.newsspool1.arcor-online.net X-Trace: DXC=\\F`=?g1a=Kk:C4l9A;OcOic==]BZ:afN4Fo<]lROoRA<`=YMgDjhgB=nKO=@:`2bL[6LHn;2LCVN[ On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 08:00:36 -0700 (PDT), gpriv@axonx.com wrote: > On Mar 12, 9:44 am, Thomas wrote: >> Today I stumbled on this fairly old (2003) paper on the merits (or lack >> of!) of Ada. >> >> http://www.sei.cmu.edu/pub/documents/03.reports/pdf/03tn021.pdf >> >> As I'm a complete beginner in Ada, I have no way of knowing if this >> paper is spot on, or way off. >> >> It doesn't really matter very much to me, as I'm just learnig Ada for >> fun (and so far I'm having lots of fun!), but should I ever decide to >> use it for any "real" projects, it's of course worth considering if the >> author, Jim Smith, is right in his bleak conclusion: >> >> ----- >> Program managers considering the technical and programmatic risks of >> incorporating specific programming languages in software-intensive >> systems could reasonably -conclude that Ada is a programming language >> with a dubious or nonexistent future. >> ----- I doubt that they consider anything is a rational way... I cannot remember a case when language choice was a subject of a serious (rational) consideration. >> Sounds awfully dark and gloomy eh? Yep, it has been sounded that way since 90s, almost 20 years, how distressing... (:-)) >> So, what's your take on this? Is Ada still an important player? Did Ada >> 2005 change anything? I don't think so. Ada 2005 brought mainly cosmetic changes, and the language technical merits is not an issue anyway. >> Is all well and good in the Ada world, and Jim >> Smith is simply blowing smoke out of his blowhole? It is difficult to say. IMO Ada world is too fragmented. > If popularity is the major criteria to choose the language we all > should use VB. Popularity is a measure of the language choices already made. ... I guess that the subject of an economical/sociological analysis is not language recommendation, but merely a description of what's going on. These are different things. Ada could be a better choice, but VB is chosen. -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de