From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 10.236.182.230 with SMTP id o66mr452530yhm.12.1398330992627; Thu, 24 Apr 2014 02:16:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.140.106.71 with SMTP id d65mr611qgf.41.1398330992593; Thu, 24 Apr 2014 02:16:32 -0700 (PDT) Path: border2.nntp.dca3.giganews.com!backlog4.nntp.dca3.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!cm18no5918052qab.0!news-out.google.com!dz10ni20896qab.1!nntp.google.com!m5no4920777qaj.1!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 02:16:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=83.145.50.10; posting-account=3_reEwoAAAC163IAIrx427KYmwahFuh9 NNTP-Posting-Host: 83.145.50.10 References: <7f1c01c5-3563-4b94-9831-152dbbf2ecdc@googlegroups.com> <9f156351-e3d0-4d86-b816-1d5e09ee69da@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <1d2e19a3-44c0-42a5-9312-a5d19908cc34@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Your wish list for Ada 202X From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?bj=F6rn_lundin?= Injection-Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 09:16:32 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Original-Bytes: 2974 Xref: number.nntp.dca.giganews.com comp.lang.ada:186060 Date: 2014-04-24T02:16:32-07:00 List-Id: Den onsdagen den 23:e april 2014 kl. 22:14:11 UTC+2 skrev Randy Brukardt: > "Jeffrey Carter" wrote in message=20 > > I don't think this is an issue of saving keystrokes, but a belief that = the=20 > > former is easier to read than the latter. >=20 > > With the addition of such notation for tagged types in 2007, exposure t= o=20 > > this difference has become more widespread, so desiring V'Image rather= =20 > > than T'Image (V) may not be entirely about saving keystrokes. >=20 >=20 >=20 > It's not, it's mainly about wanting to avoid the effort to look up the ex= act=20 > subtype of an object before writing 'Image. That wastes far more time tha= n=20 > the few keystrokes ever would take. (Which is redoubled if one has to fin= d=20 > out whether Image exists or some function has to be used instead.) I agree. It is not just to save keystrokes, it is to simplify work. And no-one here uses a debugger, so examining log-files is=20 the way to find errors (around here anyway). Debugging does not help when you wan't to examine why something happend or = did not happen at a running site. Logfiles do. If they contain the correct amount of logging. 'Img or 'Image would encourage more people to log stuff they perhaps do not know that they need to log.=20 And it is a pain if you want to log a record, with many separate types, where the types are defined in several separate files. Varible'img or Varaible'Image would make life easier for me /Bj=F6rn