From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: border1.nntp.ams3.giganews.com!border1.nntp.ams2.giganews.com!border3.nntp.ams.giganews.com!border1.nntp.ams.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed.tele2net.at!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Is this expected behavior or not Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 16:19:04 +0200 Organization: cbb software GmbH Message-ID: <1cfhriq4xpg9s$.3yl33z705wpn$.dlg@40tude.net> References: <1u72u7h5j4jg3$.wlxmaltyzqik.dlg@40tude.net> <1gnmajx2fdjju.1bo28xwmzt1nr.dlg@40tude.net> <3gv2jwc95otm.pl2aahsh9ox8.dlg@40tude.net> <1gkxiwepaxvtt$.u3ly33rbwthf.dlg@40tude.net> <1fmcdkj58brky.bjedt0pr39cd$.dlg@40tude.net> <1bj564vat3q1j$.1s4d00rlzx4ux$.dlg@40tude.net> Reply-To: mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de NNTP-Posting-Host: FbOMkhMtVLVmu7IwBnt1tw.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.15.1 X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 X-Original-Bytes: 2736 Xref: number.nntp.dca.giganews.com comp.lang.ada:180931 Date: 2013-04-05T16:19:04+02:00 List-Id: On Fri, 5 Apr 2013 14:49:41 +0200, Stefan.Lucks@uni-weimar.de wrote: > On Fri, 5 Apr 2013, Stefan.Lucks@uni-weimar.de wrote: > >> On Fri, 5 Apr 2013, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: >> >>> Unicode strings, all of them, are semantically exactly same except for >>> encoding [representation] and constraints put on the code point set. >> >> N is a subset of Z is a subset of Q is a subset of R. Depends on construction. The proper statement is that Q has a subset equivalent to Z and R has a subset equivalent to Q. >> Furthermore, each "X is a subset of Y" relationship implies that any >> operation possible in X is also possible in Y, including comparisons. > > What I meant to write: > > Numbers, naturals, integers, rationals and reals, are semantically exactly > same except for encoding [representation] and constraints. A quite common misunderstanding. Structure such as field is not same as a subset. To see the difference between R and Z consider the following predicate: forall x in S exists y such as x=1/y [multiplicative inverse] This is true for S=R and false for S=Z. -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de