From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 10.224.55.200 with SMTP id v8mr19206242qag.7.1372776928320; Tue, 02 Jul 2013 07:55:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.50.66.208 with SMTP id h16mr1084386igt.11.1372776928272; Tue, 02 Jul 2013 07:55:28 -0700 (PDT) Path: border1.nntp.ams3.giganews.com!border1.nntp.ams2.giganews.com!border3.nntp.ams.giganews.com!border1.nntp.ams.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder2.enfer-du-nord.net!news.glorb.com!y2no123471qax.0!news-out.google.com!f7ni623qai.0!nntp.google.com!y2no123468qax.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 07:55:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=108.90.156.221; posting-account=qZVz2QoAAAAN9WxYp-9jYb7jORc4Zqwt NNTP-Posting-Host: 108.90.156.221 References: <31f9819e-6509-4d67-acea-4d2ba9a96c04@googlegroups.com> <4csim6j63mk4.1c54vo5v7eu8c.dlg@40tude.net> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <1cd68c0b-4784-4ed1-8f9d-dd1dafb2e6c9@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Help with embedded hardware/software platform selection for ADA From: mjsilva@scriptoriumdesigns.com Injection-Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 14:55:28 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Original-Bytes: 2915 Xref: number.nntp.dca.giganews.com comp.lang.ada:182215 Date: 2013-07-02T07:55:27-07:00 List-Id: On Monday, July 1, 2013 4:35:54 PM UTC-7, Simon Clubley wrote: > On 2013-07-01, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: >=20 > > >=20 > > Don't be. Meanwhile, there are plenty of Intel Atom and AMD Geode SBCs. >=20 > > >=20 > > E.g. an ALIX board is under 100 EUR. >=20 > > >=20 > > http://www.pcengines.ch/alix.htm >=20 > > http://pcengines.ch/pic/alix2b3.jpg >=20 > > >=20 >=20 >=20 > That is way, way too big for some embedded environments (for example if >=20 > someone wants to drop a board into a model aircraft, ground based robot >=20 > or handheld device). >=20 >=20 >=20 > ARM is ideally suited for this market; take a look at the latest Olimex >=20 > boards for some examples of ARM board form factors. The ones Olimex have >=20 > produced over the last year or so in response to the Raspberry Pi are >=20 > rather capable boards. >=20 >=20 >=20 > Simon. Exactly. There are countless applications for these "low-end" ARMS, which = have 8kb-1Mb of Flash, and 2kb-128kb of RAM. This is the universe I work i= n, and it's a big and active universe, and I can't use Ada even though I kn= ow it's a much better tool than C or C++. And that's why I was anxiously h= oping that the Cortex M3 GNAT release would become available at the libre s= ite, but it's not. Ada can't compete where it doesn't even show up.