From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,5bcc293dc5642650 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Received: by 10.204.156.195 with SMTP id y3mr2036779bkw.4.1319222097144; Fri, 21 Oct 2011 11:34:57 -0700 (PDT) Path: l23ni25834bkv.0!nntp.google.com!news2.google.com!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!feeder.news-service.com!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Why no Ada.Wide_Directories? Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 20:34:55 +0200 Organization: cbb software GmbH Message-ID: <1cchjqhfjqo2l$.1s951jo0p9w8c.dlg@40tude.net> References: <9937871.172.1318575525468.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@prib32> <418b8140-fafb-442f-b91c-e22cc47f8adb@y22g2000pri.googlegroups.com> <7156122c-b63f-487e-ad1b-0edcc6694a7a@u10g2000prl.googlegroups.com> <409c81ab-bd54-493b-beb4-a0cca99ec306@p27g2000prp.googlegroups.com> <4d97ced2-1695-4352-926c-2070f9ccbbf1@o19g2000vbk.googlegroups.com> Reply-To: mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de NNTP-Posting-Host: NkTZyZQzt+uRNthfI6+Hjg.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.15.1 X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Xref: news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:14131 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: 2011-10-21T20:34:55+02:00 List-Id: On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 18:03:03 +0200, Yannick Duch�ne (Hibou57) wrote: > Le Fri, 21 Oct 2011 15:13:54 +0200, Dmitry A. Kazakov > a �crit: >> Not really. Wide_Wide_String is one possible implementation of logical >> Unicode string. > And precisely, that implementation is sufficient (*). Nope. Under Windows I rather need UTF-16 and ASCII. Under Linux it would be UTF-8 and RADIX-50 for RSX-11. > You can't expect Ada > will provide a so much abstract implementation that it will cover all > possible implementations. Why not? Why should not a language provide abstractions for character encoding? > (*) And that implementation is a clean view, unlike the one of String > holding UTF-8 data. You are confusing interface and implementation. This is one of Ada's problems that they are not clearly separated. Ada 83 pioneered the idea of such separation for user-defined private types, but was not consequent to support it for other types, especially, for arrays and records. -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de