From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: f43e6,55bd34f1cd6c5d50 X-Google-Thread: 103376,2da55323afbab070 X-Google-Attributes: gidf43e6,gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!postnews2.google.com!not-for-mail From: seanearlyaug@hotmail.com (Sean Cleary) Newsgroups: comp.software-eng,comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Support Metrics for Ada / C Projects Date: 31 Aug 2004 11:10:35 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <1c5ac0c6.0408311010.1cde35ca@posting.google.com> References: <56db3f9e.0408222248.2226aefb@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.225.109.135 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1093975835 17096 127.0.0.1 (31 Aug 2004 18:10:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 18:10:35 +0000 (UTC) Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.software-eng:1645 comp.lang.ada:3222 Date: 2004-08-31T11:10:35-07:00 List-Id: "Richard Riehle" wrote in message news:... > "Dan Ligett" wrote in message > news:Vq2dnTTuS7iIZrTcRVn-uA@adelphia.com... > > > > In 1987, 1988, and 1989 Barry Boehm and Walker Royce reported on a version > > of Ada COCOMO they developed based on their experience at TRW. The > > presentations were given at the annual COCOMO meetings -- I don't know if > > they were published anywhere else. > > not metrics, just a caution: 5 or more years ago a project I was associated with failed because the Ada part of the team was crippled: no run time debug -- all reported back stuff was machine/assembly language level. They took to heavily instrumenting their code, and got huge printouts of exactly what was happening. And had to look through it line by line, loop cycle by loop cycle until the problem was found. That was so slow that it killed the project. Please do not let this happen to you. Their conclusion was that C++ with good tools would have been better. I hope that there are now good tools for embedded Ada. Sean