From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 2002:a37:b704:: with SMTP id h4mr339839qkf.373.1569362975825; Tue, 24 Sep 2019 15:09:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:aca:5714:: with SMTP id l20mr2014476oib.175.1569362975539; Tue, 24 Sep 2019 15:09:35 -0700 (PDT) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!feeder.usenetexpress.com!feeder-in1.iad1.usenetexpress.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!o24no5935979qtl.0!news-out.google.com!x7ni1655qtf.0!nntp.google.com!o24no5935975qtl.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2019 15:09:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=2.123.139.67; posting-account=L2-UcQkAAAAfd_BqbeNHs3XeM0jTXloS NNTP-Posting-Host: 2.123.139.67 References: <5edf39fb-169a-463a-b28e-ece1d3b553e0@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <1bf5a548-4d06-4a95-87f6-1e1170b04c99@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Implementing Rust's borrow checked pointers From: Lucretia Injection-Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2019 22:09:35 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Xref: reader01.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:57190 Date: 2019-09-24T15:09:35-07:00 List-Id: On Tuesday, 24 September 2019 20:13:33 UTC+1, Keith Thompson wrote: > Lucretia writes: > > On Tuesday, 24 September 2019 12:23:30 UTC+1, Optikos wrote: > > > >> > begin > >> > A.all ... ; -- raises exception. > >> > >> No, to be as useful as Rust's borrow checker, instead of raising > >> exception, it needs to be a compile-time error. The compiler needs > >> to maintain a whole-program directed graph at compile-time, not defer > >> a detection-based localized analysis to run-time. > > > > Yes, the compiler would raise that exception at compile time. This > > idea that all exceptions are raised at runtime is false and you should > > check the AARM. > > Can you provide a specific citation? No, I'm fairly sure I saw it in one of the AARM's under compilation requirements years ago, but I cannot find it now. > Certainly a compiler can diagnose an error at compile time, but I've > never heard that referred to as an "exception". And a compiler can > generate code that unconditionally raises an exception, but that code is > executed at run time. I read it as the environment raises an exception like program_error on a compilation error.