From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,80ae596d36288e8a X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!news.glorb.com!feeder.erje.net!news2.arglkargh.de!news.n-ix.net!news.belwue.de!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsspool1.arcor-online.net!news.arcor.de.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Subject: Re: Why no socket package in the standard ? Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.15.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de Organization: cbb software GmbH References: <872169864327910446.796089rmhost.bauhaus-maps.arcor.de@news.arcor.de> <9cb23235-8824-43f4-92aa-d2e8d10e7d8c@ct4g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> <4ddb5bd7$0$302$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <4ddb81b8$0$7628$9b4e6d93@newsspool1.arcor-online.net> <4ddc3abd$0$6542$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 11:06:26 +0200 Message-ID: <1b1jorug3upqh$.17igny3efwznu.dlg@40tude.net> NNTP-Posting-Date: 25 May 2011 11:06:26 CEST NNTP-Posting-Host: 733f4355.newsspool1.arcor-online.net X-Trace: DXC=aDhkRJk5\JPPU8j_I0DN6_ic==]BZ:af^4Fo<]lROoRQ<`=YMgDjhgR2AgViea:kKT[6LHn;2LCV^7enW;^6ZC`T\`mfM[68DCSWQ:4595V0L\ X-Complaints-To: usenet-abuse@arcor.de Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:19461 Date: 2011-05-25T11:06:26+02:00 List-Id: On Wed, 25 May 2011 01:09:49 +0200, Georg Bauhaus wrote: > A CAN is real, it is wide spread, it is not that new, and > has money associated with it. Yes, but 1. CAN is dying, to be superseded by EtherCAT, XCP etc. 2. CAN requires special adaptors (vendors are IXXAT, Vector, NI), which have no standardized interface. You need to standardize that interface first, i.e. do the job sockets did for Ethernet adapters. 3. Raw CAN is only 20% or so. Most vendors use CAN Open on its top. CAN Open is an utter mess. 4. Raw CAN is useless at the application level, because it has only 8 bytes of data (if you don't mess with IDs, which would give another 11 bits). -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de