From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD, FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 2002:a6b:cf04:: with SMTP id o4-v6mr2505486ioa.87.1528916339524; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 11:58:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a9d:6218:: with SMTP id g24-v6mr252859otj.4.1528916339389; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 11:58:59 -0700 (PDT) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!feeder.erje.net!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed8.news.xs4all.nl!85.12.16.69.MISMATCH!peer02.ams1!peer.ams1.xlned.com!news.xlned.com!peer02.am4!peer.am4.highwinds-media.com!peer03.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!d7-v6no1776319itj.0!news-out.google.com!c20-v6ni945itc.0!nntp.google.com!d7-v6no1776316itj.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 11:58:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=76.113.16.86; posting-account=lJ3JNwoAAAAQfH3VV9vttJLkThaxtTfC NNTP-Posting-Host: 76.113.16.86 References: <5e86db65-84b9-4b5b-9aea-427a658b5ae7@googlegroups.com> <878t7u1cfm.fsf@nightsong.com> <8a65f8ff-4a75-43f2-884c-6872780f7ea8@googlegroups.com> <771e8e35-b71a-499d-a0fe-bb0df1de22ab@googlegroups.com> <92741619.550509671.540055.laguest-archeia.com@nntp.aioe.org> <81e22064-bb0e-4e0b-982a-c17a2cad5977@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <1b03e4ff-daf1-4c13-84ef-13aec1ba96e9@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Ada Successor Language From: Shark8 Injection-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 18:58:59 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Received-Bytes: 2550 X-Received-Body-CRC: 3896075023 Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:53085 Date: 2018-06-13T11:58:59-07:00 List-Id: On Wednesday, June 13, 2018 at 12:57:34 AM UTC-6, Simon Wright wrote: >=20 > Sounds like the Ratinal Environment. I've only ever read about it myself; but the people that I've talked with t= hat have personally used it seem to be pretty impressed with it (considerin= g its age and the contemporary environments). IMO, the rise to prominence of Unix and C [and arguably C++] is the worst t= hing that happened in the field of CS. The amount of money, time, energy, a= nd effort sucked up by these is so staggering to contemplate that it would = be difficult to overestimate the costs, both real [e.g. all the buffer over= flow vulnerabilities] and opportunities lost [e.g. the low-level of today's= "advanced" continuous integration, or the cost of using the FS as a DB, or= the costs of moronically considering unstructured text as THE appropriate/= native format for storing programs].