From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,df1a7f1c3c3bc77e X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!news.glorb.com!newspeer2.de.telia.net!newspeer3.de.telia.net!de.telia.net!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsspool2.arcor-online.net!news.arcor.de.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Subject: Re: An Ada Advice Inquiry Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.15.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de Organization: cbb software GmbH References: <1178448459.256329.28590@n76g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1178480316.415370.194260@n76g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <463ed042$1@news.post.ch> <1178527820.949652.143060@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <1g1r9ddu19ka7$.1kq3tc2btm98o.dlg@40tude.net> <1178542830.662912.295270@y5g2000hsa.googlegroups.com> Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 15:58:06 +0200 Message-ID: <1ag0c4xfhpqu8$.1ay8hqvyp8za3$.dlg@40tude.net> NNTP-Posting-Date: 07 May 2007 15:58:06 CEST NNTP-Posting-Host: 0d240071.newsspool2.arcor-online.net X-Trace: DXC=TY1CZOPdLNRPU8j_I0DN6_A9EHlD;3YcR4Fo<]lROoRQ8kF_jE@4DToS4^_ X-Complaints-To: usenet-abuse@arcor.de Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:15617 Date: 2007-05-07T15:58:06+02:00 List-Id: On 7 May 2007 06:00:30 -0700, Maciej Sobczak wrote: > On 7 Maj, 11:40, "Dmitry A. Kazakov" > wrote: > >>> I believe you entirely that you had this problem - but today, at least >>> three generations of compilers later, it's hardly a convincing >>> argument. >> >> Huh, have you seen Borland Builder 2006? > > No, but I've heard very bad stories about it and I wonder why the hell > there is still any market for this. Yes, because it was a customer requirement and because there are fancy libraries one believed of being able to use with Borland. This again is about how languages and compilers get chosen, in practise. > Do we really talk about *new > projects*, or continuation of legacy code with vendor lock-in? It is always a continuation, new projects are made by old people living in the old world. > What about MSVC++8.0? g++4? Intel? Comeau? We are using the first. > The difference between Ada and C++ is that with C++ we have a set of > compilers to choose from, so nobody is forcing you to use the worst > one (unless you got locked-in, but then it's only your fault). The choices between compilers are motivated by everything but the quality of. It has the same pattern as with the language choice. No chance to convince customer to scrap Borland, even less to switch to Ada. > With Ada there is a set of versions of GNAT that are "somewhere" > between Ada95 and Ada2005, where the exact meaning of "somewhere" is > to be discovered by the user. That is a transitional state. -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de