From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 8d81cdf253,3ef3e78eacf6f938 X-Google-Attributes: gid8d81cdf253,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!s31g2000yqs.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Hibou57_=28Yannick_Duch=EAne=29?= Newsgroups: comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.modula3,comp.programming Subject: Re: Alternatives to C: ObjectPascal, Eiffel, Ada or Modula-3? Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 07:38:50 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <1a6f78ca-436f-4c06-b363-ceec681b5aed@s31g2000yqs.googlegroups.com> References: <4fc0934e-197b-4a02-a006-4b64072897b2@h18g2000yqj.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 77.198.58.8 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1248187130 32706 127.0.0.1 (21 Jul 2009 14:38:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:38:50 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: s31g2000yqs.googlegroups.com; posting-host=77.198.58.8; posting-account=vrfdLAoAAAAauX_3XwyXEwXCWN3A1l8D User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; fr),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.eiffel:368 comp.lang.ada:7241 comp.lang.modula3:74 comp.programming:11950 Date: 2009-07-21T07:38:50-07:00 List-Id: On 21 juil, 16:12, Andrea Taverna wrote: > On 21 Lug, 14:25, Jon Harrop wrote: > > > I am very surprised at the list of languages you arrived at! FreePascal, > > Eiffel and Modula-3 are all essentially dead. > > I don't think so. FP seems to have a pretty alive community, GOBO > libraries seem to be actively updated. I can't confirm for M3, but its > supporters seem to be "alive and kicking". All of these three are still alive. I know for FreePascal (alias the old FPK), althought it is a bit too much buggy in my opinion. I know for Eiffel as a big part on Eiffel research is done in a town not very far from where I leave (there is the Loria, at Nancy [france]), and Modula-3 is still evolving, as it was first Modula, then Modula-2, then Modula-3 and there was Oberon which came from Modula. If sometimes peoples feel one of these is not alive anymore, this is I think beceause each of its users are leaving on there own island and most of time do not know about what is going on, on other islands. All of these, with also by the way, Ada, Prolog and derivatives, Lisp and derivatises, and two or three others (I forgot their names), are stil living. Most of them beceause they rely on a good theory (except FreePascal perhaps) and will continue to live for long.