From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,85b02a301688919 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news2.google.com!news.glorb.com!wn11feed!worldnet.att.net!bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada From: anon@anon.org (anon) Subject: Re: TIOBE Programming Community Index for November 2007 Reply-To: anon@anon.org (anon) References: <1779892.Lp74q3fGR4@linux1.krischik.com> <472ec5e7$1@news.post.ch> X-Newsreader: IBM NewsReader/2 2.0 Message-ID: <1MEXi.334952$ax1.162469@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 13:19:57 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.65.120.45 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1194268797 12.65.120.45 (Mon, 05 Nov 2007 13:19:57 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 13:19:57 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:18198 Date: 2007-11-05T13:19:57+00:00 List-Id: The problem with this type of survey board is that it uses hits. Any single person can key in the correct information and cause the numbers to change in the way he/she likes. Or, any internet programmer can build a net application to alter the hits pattern in a few seconds. Plus, most job hunting programmers do not use the keys "Ada programming" or "Ada jobs". They search for the type of job that they want, such as a person wanting to work with super-computers might search for "Super-computers" or "Super-computers jobs". Or they could search for specific jobs like "Programming jobs in weather forecasting" or "NASA jobs", in both case super-computers are widely used and neither search uses a programming language even though one or both jobs could use Ada. Actually most grads and programmers looking for jobs do not care what language they use so long as they can program and not just vacuum out a dusty computer cabinet or defrag a hard drive at the local computer repair shop. And for Ada. The name is not copyrighted! Just entering "Ada" in a search engine will get you site for. American Dental Association American Diabetes Association American Dietetic Association Americans with Disabilities Act Alternative Distribution Alliance Aeronautical Development Agency ... and finally [ Ada (programming language) ] ... Because those topics and others use programming, you could see links to those website and others if you use "Ada programming" but the programming languages site should pop up more frequently than the others, but that not always the case at google. Then there are people like me who have yet to use "Ada programming" in a search engine. "Ada Language" is better and limits the data to the Ada language and its related fields. So, the hit counter is not a perfect list as TIOBE would like you to believe. In <472ec5e7$1@news.post.ch>, Martin Krischik writes: >anon schrieb: >> Means nothing! >> >> The rating as states is based on search engines. At the beginning of >> classes students are searching for sites to find help. After a month >> most have them the links and are no longer searching. So, the rating >> drops. A better check will be after the final exam and before the next >> class begins. >> > >Prehaps you should read the definition: > >http://www.tiobe.com/tiobe_index/tpci_definition.htm > >Aa far as I understand it they just count hits. If you got to google and >execute: > >http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=de&newwindow=1&q=%2B%22Ada+programming%22&btnG=Suche&lr=lang_de%7Clang_en > >you get 220.000 pages. Note the use of +"Ada programming" - without the >+ and the " it would be a lot more. I think adding: > > > >to every Ada related page would do the trick. > >Martin > >-- >mailto://krischik@users.sourceforge.net >Ada programming at: http://ada.krischik.com