From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 10.182.58.105 with SMTP id p9mr14470398obq.25.1415834472806; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 15:21:12 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.140.32.74 with SMTP id g68mr47901qgg.22.1415834472770; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 15:21:12 -0800 (PST) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.glorb.com!hl2no802012igb.0!news-out.google.com!u1ni10qah.0!nntp.google.com!i13no1198292qae.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 15:21:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=73.46.72.234; posting-account=yiWntAoAAAC1KqC_shmxJYv07B9l6LNU NNTP-Posting-Host: 73.46.72.234 References: <87fvdr2vdv.fsf@adaheads.sparre-andersen.dk> <54609F34.4080201@spam.spam> <35f01472-3510-4f67-8765-006fa8591c35@googlegroups.com> <9tc8w.73007$ZT5.37595@fx07.iad> <22a3816a-4e89-48f0-a126-dce581781beb@googlegroups.com> <084b1934-9641-425e-85ec-293e0334413e@googlegroups.com> <86bf69c8-eb08-4696-b6c9-3784f5c42213@googlegroups.com> <87389olqie.fsf@ixod.org> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <19fa65d4-72c9-44ab-b44b-4ea0929c18f2@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: What exactly is the licensing situation with GNAT? From: David Botton Injection-Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 23:21:12 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:23194 Date: 2014-11-12T15:21:12-08:00 List-Id: > Unfortunately, if it is like most of David's other software, it won't wor= k=20 > on other Ada compilers Not true. Janus is the only Windows compiler with an issue. There was an ABI issue with using Janus that was too much effort for me to = consider as a volunteer effort for a non Open Source compiler, however, Gn= atCOM was used on Aonix OpenAda and in Rational's Ada compiler. Privately = I can give you a list of projects where I know it was used if you like not = on GNAT. I do not know if GWindows was used on other compilers, but other than the f= act that I tend to use Object'Img there is nothing GNAT specific about the = project. Since GNAT is the only open source compiler, it is the only one I = choose to support until there are others. > That requires displine and testing that most hobbyests wouldn't bother wi= th. I think that you confuse Open Source developers with "Hobbyest", that is us= ually not the case at all. GnatCOM was a professional supported product by GNAT. GWindows is used as a professional product by fortune 500 companies. I didn= 't go through with my plan 10 years ago with bringing Ada to the business s= ector because of license changes in GNAT to the public version and various = other issues. Using FSF compilers in those days was not a big option. There is nothing in Gnoga other than the use again of Object'Img preventing= it from being used on Janus if it ever gets updated to Ada 2012. I'd be ha= ppy to help you do the work to replace AWS if needed with your own implemen= tation of Websockets, etc. I think that for many people they have not "figured" out how to make Open S= ource work to their advantage. It has in my career.=20 I'd be happy to talk to you privately any time about how to make Janus work= in an Open Source environment provided you could open it. If you can't per= haps we can talk about options for a new Open Source compiler. I really lik= ed Janus. Your CLAW Open Source version came too late, if it was a year before I prob= ably would have forked it and used it instead of created GWindows. David Botton