From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,e7151167e0767ecc X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!postnews2.google.com!not-for-mail From: dan.r.mcleran@seagate.com (Dan McLeran) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Feasibility of using Ada in new development Date: 2 Sep 2004 08:18:23 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <19b0e504.0409020718.40a57082@posting.google.com> References: <8429999a.0408231027.2850e800@posting.google.com> <8429999a.0408241225.144c0066@posting.google.com> <19b0e504.0408251305.73ed26c8@posting.google.com> <87brgxkbol.fsf@insalien.org> <19b0e504.0408280957.5e266d7@posting.google.com> <877jrjhzx4.fsf@insalien.org> <19b0e504.0408300906.15164bf3@posting.google.com> <19b0e504.0408310911.1e885c26@posting.google.com> <0Q2Zc.2443$TG.1908@trndny01> NNTP-Posting-Host: 192.55.20.36 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1094138304 19810 127.0.0.1 (2 Sep 2004 15:18:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 15:18:24 +0000 (UTC) Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:3264 Date: 2004-09-02T08:18:23-07:00 List-Id: > I agree, because of the rest of the programming industry, today, a language > is often deemed as good as it's IDE. It shouldn't be that way, but it > usually is. What I like to say to that is. It doesn't matter how good the > IDE is, it's still not as good as the programmer, hence you can induce > errors you think aren't just as you can in C++, Delphi, Pascal, VB and the > others. But only Ada will tell you that before it's too late rather than > after it's on a client's machine and that's where Ada scores the big points, > the errors it can detect that C/C++ won't even know is there, but Ada won't > compile it until it's fixed. Try that with the other IDE's and Languages. > > Stephane Richard > "Ada World" webmaster > http://www.adaworld.com There's also productivity concerns as well. One could do everything necessary to create great software with NotePad and batch files, but would you want to? Regardless of language quality, (Ada is obviously a great language for building software), one needs tools that help generate great software. If the tools are any kind of hinderance, the language gets a bad rap.