From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,b0d68c502c0ae6 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: kilgallen@eisner.decus.org (Larry Kilgallen) Subject: Re: Printing Enum Variable Re: Linux World Date: 1999/03/10 Message-ID: <1999Mar10.091406.1@eisner>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 453394708 X-Nntp-Posting-Host: eisner.decus.org References: <7bfc2n$jl9@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> <7bhh26$r7c$1@remarQ.com> <36DCAC1F.430E2C5E@aasaa.ofe.org> <7bk4v8$kl8$1@remarQ.com> <36DDA761.7B4E8099@aasaa.ofe.org> <7bkrmm$ao1$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <36DE0007.5236CEA2@aasaa.ofe.org> <7bmmu2$n0h@news1.newsguy.com> <7btj81$j0d$1@remarQ.com> <1999Mar7.074102.1@eisner> <7bva62$kgm$1@remarQ.com> <7c0knr$v5$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <7c1833$2n@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com> <7c3lft$t10$1@remarQ.com> <1999Mar9.131659. X-Trace: news.decus.org 921075251 1677 KILGALLEN [192.67.173.2] Organization: Digital Equipment Computer User's Society Followup-To: Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 1999-03-10T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Reply-To: Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam Organization: LJK Software Lines: 25 In article , dale@cs.rmit.edu.au (Dale Stanbrough) writes: > I would think the best form of advocacy is to go back through > your development and field error logs and determine how many > of them could have been prevented at compile time by using Ada, > and present this to your manager. Even if Ada did not exist, or even if you were in an all-Ada shop, your shop should be keeping a log of "why did this problem occur". With that as a neutral base, if your answers turn out to be all "this language does not support compiler checks for X", you may at least be leading toward a discussion of language policy. > Another thing you could do (it worked for the U.S. Navy!) > is to realise it is easier to seek forgiveness than permission. > Write your software in Ada anyway, and then give it to them > as a completed work! (mind you if i was a manager and you did > this to me i'ld be inclined to sack you :-). A different approach would be to do prototypes in Ada. That will introduce the language, and sometimes organizations end up running on the prototype for a while. Of course running on the prototype for a while is not in anyone's _plan_, but the best laid plans... Larry Kilgallen