From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109fba,4873305131bf4d94 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,4873305131bf4d94 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: fdb77,4873305131bf4d94 X-Google-Attributes: gidfdb77,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,4873305131bf4d94 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: kilgallen@eisner.decus.org (Larry Kilgallen) Subject: Re: Current Ada strengths - was Re: ADA SUCKS, C/C++/JAVA RULES!!!! Date: 1997/10/30 Message-ID: <1997Oct30.094442.1@eisner>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 285978894 X-Nntp-Posting-Host: eisner.decus.org References: <34557f2b.1934172@news.mindspring.com> <635csg$2eu$1@news2.alpha.net> <635u6q$4tk$1@flood.weeg.uiowa.edu> <345881C4.640998A4@horvath.com> X-Trace: news.decus.org 878222687 8991 KILGALLEN [192.67.173.2] Organization: LJK Software Reply-To: Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.java.advocacy Date: 1997-10-30T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In article <345881C4.640998A4@horvath.com>, Bob Horvath writes: > It seems to me that if you know language, you don't need an IDE. And if you > need an IDE, then you don't know the language. In my experience IDEs are most helpful not with the language but with the environment. Just because I know Ada, that does not mean I know everything about calling Win32S, or MacApp, or Motif. If my goal is to have my Ada program run on multiple platforms, IDEs could be a blessing in making my otherwise correct software run in these environments. Unfortunately, the best IDEs are often not oriented toward standardized languages. Consider Think Pascal and Delphi, the leading dialects of Pascal on their respective platforms in their prime, but vastly different languages. Visual Basic supports another language without a strong tradition of adherence to standards. And even Visual C++ is for a language whose standard is still in committee. Larry Kilgallen