From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,e78bf08926a9187e X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: kilgallen@eisner.decus.org (Larry Kilgallen) Subject: Re: Helping Students Date: 1997/01/18 Message-ID: <1997Jan18.130729.1@eisner>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 210688199 x-nntp-posting-host: eisner.decus.org references: <5bqrkh$i9c@saturn.brighton.ac.uk> x-nntp-posting-user: KILGALLEN x-trace: 853610856/19871 organization: LJK Software newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 1997-01-18T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In article <5bqrkh$i9c@saturn.brighton.ac.uk>, jmb36@bton.ac.uk (baker) writes: > I have no idea why you people get so upset about helping students with > their school work, after all, aren't you here to help pass on your Ada > skills and knowledge? I mean, that's what you'd be doing as I am learning > Ada at the moment. Nobody here can speak for all of us, but I will answer for myself. 1. When I went to school, we were supposed to do our work alone Now I am the first to admit that industrial practice often involves collaboration, but it is not collaboration on things that can be gotten from books. 2. Educators in this group suggest against the practice I am as quick as the next person to disagree with these folk when the topic is something where I have experience, such as operating system considerations. As regards educational techniques, however, I must defer to them in most cases (aside from occasional comments about the way their results come out in industry). 3. There is not sufficient bandwidth I regularly killfile long topics cross posted to other groups which typically devolve into "my language is better than yours". Although there are sometimes valid points made in such discussions, they are few and far between. There are just not enough hours in the day (my day, anyway) to follow every student in the world who has trouble with their homework. Considering that many participants in this group aspire to encouraging more widespread use (and therefore teaching) of Ada, the problem would only get worse. Obviously some _other_ electronic forum for handling homework problems would address this particular reason, but comp.lang.ada is not the place. So those are my reasons. Your statement was "I have no idea why you people get so upset", so now you have at least one set of reasons, even if you disagree. Larry Kilgallen