From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,bdc41aa5ff8e1d93 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: whiting_ms@corning.com (whiting_ms@corning.com (Matt Whiting)) Subject: Re: Programmers -> Engineers; Engineers -> Programmers Date: 1996/08/09 Message-ID: <1996Aug9.114928.1@corning.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 173187741 references: <1996Aug8.115630.4568@relay.nswc.navy.mil> organization: Corning, Incorporated newsgroups: comp.lang.ada nntp-posting-user: whiting_ms Date: 1996-08-09T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In article , ryer@harp.camb.inmet.com (Mike Ryer) writes: > There are many first-rate programmers who have a general scientific education > and the interest and quickness to learn a lot about radar -- just don't let > them design your antennas. There are many first-rate electronic engineers > who have the patience and flexibility to learn programming -- just don't let > them code your flight control system. > > An electrical engineer can learn on his/her own how to program, but it takes > working in a team within an established software engineering culture to really > learn about maintainability, robustness, configuration management, defensive > programming, realtime constraints, etc. (A succession of hard knocks will > also work, though this is tough on the first few projects). > > A good programmer or software engineer should be able to find ambiguities and > contradictions in the requirements document written by a radar designer, think > of boundary conditions and unusual scenarios, design for efficiency on > processing the kinds on input that actually occur in practice, etc. In > other words, if they're good, they will have insight into the physics, > electronics, and mechanics of the system. > > A successful project wants software engineers who understand the underlying > science, and radar designers who understand software. At least a few of each. > Maybe you'll find a superman who does quantum mechanics in his head *and* > writes code that's easy for other people to understand. (I haven't). > > To the extent that you don't have the excellent electronic and software > engineers who learn enough about each other's fields, you need communicators, > reviewers, requirements testers as well as code testers (note Arianne 5 > story), and a lot of extra time. > > So the summary is: > Q: Is it better to take engineers/scientists who understand the system > and teach them how to program? Or is it better to take programmers > and teach them about the radar system? > A: No. > -- And I planned to answer, YES. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matthew S. Whiting, P.E. | PP-ASEL-IA | All opinions expressed herein are Corning Incorporated | C-182K/A | strictly personal. whiting_ms@corning.com | |